Can I put a Canadian Floatplane rating on a Kiwi CPL?
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Can I put a Canadian Floatplane rating on a Kiwi CPL?
One of those potentially obscure questions that I'm sure someone here has the answer to !
Any answers very much appreciated ... failing that I'll have to contact the CAA, and no one wants that
Cheers guys
Any answers very much appreciated ... failing that I'll have to contact the CAA, and no one wants that
Cheers guys
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NO, YOU can't.
You can't put a foreign rating on your NZ licence.
The NZ CAA can issue it on your NZ licence if it is equivalent, or they may require a flight test to do it. Check with them for sure.
Z.
You can't put a foreign rating on your NZ licence.
The NZ CAA can issue it on your NZ licence if it is equivalent, or they may require a flight test to do it. Check with them for sure.
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If it is any help I took out a New Zealand ATPL some years ago at which time I already held six other ATPLs. All of the type ratings that were on the other licenses were added to my NZ license with the exception of one - the Beech 18 and that was because I had type rated myself and could not show any dual time. The ratings included both land and sea planes. The criteria appears to be that you have received instruction and certification on each type.
P.S. One of those licenses was a Canadian ATPL, Multi Engine, Land & Sea.
P.S. One of those licenses was a Canadian ATPL, Multi Engine, Land & Sea.
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So, No - Yes - No !
To clarify - I go to Canada, do the "visiting Canada for a while, so Transport Canada gives me a 'Visitors License' based on my NZ/JAA whatever CPL", then I do a Canadian Floatplane course .... and get a few hours in the book and a 'type rating' ..
So, next time in NZ, I go to Wellington and ask NZ CAA to put the type, or rating, on my License.
Does that work
Thanks guys appreciate the help ... Cheers
To clarify - I go to Canada, do the "visiting Canada for a while, so Transport Canada gives me a 'Visitors License' based on my NZ/JAA whatever CPL", then I do a Canadian Floatplane course .... and get a few hours in the book and a 'type rating' ..
So, next time in NZ, I go to Wellington and ask NZ CAA to put the type, or rating, on my License.
Does that work
Thanks guys appreciate the help ... Cheers
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Why not try asking CAA and getting the knowledge you need from those that count? They are after all -for the most part- fairly approachable people and should have the relevant legislative tools necessary for decision making fairly readily to hand.
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Straight from the CAA website:
Aircraft Type Ratings
After sitting a flight test that requires a new licence to be issued, pilots can have additional aircraft type ratings added to their new licence for no extra charge. Applicants must include a completed licence amendment form CAA 24061/04, and photocopied evidence that the type rating has been issued and certified by a New Zealand flight instructor in the applicant's pilot logbook, along with their licence issue paperwork.
When pilots gain a type rating for a single-pilot aircraft type, after the initial issue of their licence, they are now requested to fill in a type rating form CAA 24061/13, and send this in to CAA so that the type rating can be added to their record in the CAA database.
Pilots who have done this will automatically have any new type ratings added to their licence, at no extra charge, when they upgrade it, for example from a PPL to a CPL, or if they gain an Instrument Rating. Prescribed issue fees for the licence or prime rating are still payable.
If pilots wish to have type ratings added to their licence as a separate exercise from a licence upgrade or prime rating issue, then a $50 licence amendment fee will be charged.
So I'm going to go with "NO".
Aircraft Type Ratings
After sitting a flight test that requires a new licence to be issued, pilots can have additional aircraft type ratings added to their new licence for no extra charge. Applicants must include a completed licence amendment form CAA 24061/04, and photocopied evidence that the type rating has been issued and certified by a New Zealand flight instructor in the applicant's pilot logbook, along with their licence issue paperwork.
When pilots gain a type rating for a single-pilot aircraft type, after the initial issue of their licence, they are now requested to fill in a type rating form CAA 24061/13, and send this in to CAA so that the type rating can be added to their record in the CAA database.
Pilots who have done this will automatically have any new type ratings added to their licence, at no extra charge, when they upgrade it, for example from a PPL to a CPL, or if they gain an Instrument Rating. Prescribed issue fees for the licence or prime rating are still payable.
If pilots wish to have type ratings added to their licence as a separate exercise from a licence upgrade or prime rating issue, then a $50 licence amendment fee will be charged.
So I'm going to go with "NO".
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I've recently been dealing with the CAA about a similar issue, came back to NZ to fly a type I was flying overseas and all I had to do was show them 5 hours of experience from my logbook on type or an endorsement on an overseas licence and then pay the $50 fee to have my NZ licence amended..........this works for type ratings but not sure about a (semi) primary rating such as floats??
I would assume this would be the same as going and doing a jet type rating over seas and having it added to your CAA Licence upon return?
In AU its cheaper to fly to Canada and do your floats have a holiday and return than it is to do it locally last time I checked.
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In AU its cheaper to fly to Canada and do your floats have a holiday and return than it is to do it locally last time I checked.
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FF, the bottom line is that the New Zealand CAA does validate most ICAO pilot licenses and type ratings subject to certain criteria, as was my own experience. (refer above). All of the information that you require can be obtained from the CAA Website, and can be found in the Pilot License Circulars, in particular check out AC 61-5.
Another good link is www.caa.govt.nz/Flight_Crew_Recognition_Info.pdf
My own reading of the circulars clearly indicate that if you hold a Canadian CPL or higher both the license and the ratings will be recognised. It will only depend on your particular license, training received and experience on type.
You will also find that the N.Z. CAA are a very friendly and accomodating group of people, so you should not be concerned about making a direct approach to determine the status of your license
Another good link is www.caa.govt.nz/Flight_Crew_Recognition_Info.pdf
My own reading of the circulars clearly indicate that if you hold a Canadian CPL or higher both the license and the ratings will be recognised. It will only depend on your particular license, training received and experience on type.
You will also find that the N.Z. CAA are a very friendly and accomodating group of people, so you should not be concerned about making a direct approach to determine the status of your license