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It is ashame that Aerobatic training isn't compulsory in some form. Anyway, I'd recommend you get rated in a taildragger of some description, then get some time in the back seat, it will make the transition to the Pitts a bit less frightening. We get used to having no vis with these sorts of machines because everything one flies at a point becomes the same.
The Pitts is the greatest aeroplane ever and as Budd Davison said, "There are aircraft, then there are Pitts Specials."
Slackie will agree!
I'd have said get your basic akro out of the way in something basic like a Citabria or whatever you have available, it will help you lay a stronger foundation.
If your in NZ at some point pm me we have an S2A available for dual training/adv trial flights or just that dual one off experience your after. Take it from me, once won't be enough...
The Pitts is the greatest aeroplane ever and as Budd Davison said, "There are aircraft, then there are Pitts Specials."
Slackie will agree!
I'd have said get your basic akro out of the way in something basic like a Citabria or whatever you have available, it will help you lay a stronger foundation.
If your in NZ at some point pm me we have an S2A available for dual training/adv trial flights or just that dual one off experience your after. Take it from me, once won't be enough...
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Anyone who suggests aerobatics aren't required or advantageous, probably hasn't trained in it. It's one of those skills that you don't fully understand the benefits of, until you've really come to grips with. Even for normal flight, whether it's steep turns, PFLs, Real Forced Landings, Glide Approaches, Flapless Approaches, or even recovering from an Unusual Attitude whilst on that Navex - it is worth it's weight in gold. That extra experience provides a great foundation, and I too wish it were compulsory. If my kids learn to fly, they'll be doing aeros asap. Lastly, enjoy it - it is fun too.
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Runaway Gun,
I agree 100%. When I was in the States I went flying with a mate who owns his own Sierra. he hadn't done any aeros and I asked him the last time he did some stalls. He hadn't done any for a long time. He had a couple of thousand hours!
Anyway I said lets go do some in your aircraft. Up we went and he was literally sweating as we approached the first. Instead I got him to do some slow flight and wallow around a bit. Then a got into a stall and showed him we could fly the aircraft inside the stall, albeit with a nice rate of descent. But when he did it, habit had him picking up the wing with aileron which resulted in a wing drop. So I got just him to move the yoke forward of the Stall stick position everytime he got a wing drop and it immediately broke the stall and stopped the wing drop.
It was an interesting exercise and reminded me of how much I did not know about flight on the edge of the envelope before I had done aeros. Everyone should at least get EMT training. 5 odd hours gives you a basic aeros endo anyway. Surely we can all save up and afford five hours It will be the best money a pilot can spend on flight training.
M14_P, Yep love the Pitts, best fun with your pants on (and if you are married it also beats pants off fun! bwahahahahah).
DNTB,
Do your initial aeros training now. Doing it early will give you so much more understanding and real confidence in your ability to handle and aircraft that the rest of your flying will improve no end. You do not need to have a PPL or CPL to get the most benefit out of it. IMNSHO, the earlier the better. (Plus if you get it earlier then get lost on a Nav, turning yourself upside down to find that checkpoint underneath you is fun! )
Cheers
CB
I agree 100%. When I was in the States I went flying with a mate who owns his own Sierra. he hadn't done any aeros and I asked him the last time he did some stalls. He hadn't done any for a long time. He had a couple of thousand hours!
Anyway I said lets go do some in your aircraft. Up we went and he was literally sweating as we approached the first. Instead I got him to do some slow flight and wallow around a bit. Then a got into a stall and showed him we could fly the aircraft inside the stall, albeit with a nice rate of descent. But when he did it, habit had him picking up the wing with aileron which resulted in a wing drop. So I got just him to move the yoke forward of the Stall stick position everytime he got a wing drop and it immediately broke the stall and stopped the wing drop.
It was an interesting exercise and reminded me of how much I did not know about flight on the edge of the envelope before I had done aeros. Everyone should at least get EMT training. 5 odd hours gives you a basic aeros endo anyway. Surely we can all save up and afford five hours It will be the best money a pilot can spend on flight training.
M14_P, Yep love the Pitts, best fun with your pants on (and if you are married it also beats pants off fun! bwahahahahah).
DNTB,
Do your initial aeros training now. Doing it early will give you so much more understanding and real confidence in your ability to handle and aircraft that the rest of your flying will improve no end. You do not need to have a PPL or CPL to get the most benefit out of it. IMNSHO, the earlier the better. (Plus if you get it earlier then get lost on a Nav, turning yourself upside down to find that checkpoint underneath you is fun! )
Cheers
CB