Digital Mapping - Dimap
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SUN, we all know that this is a RUMOUR NETWORK, but you'll have to do better than that on your first post I'm afraid.
Who did you hear that from, and where did you hear it? Insider information perhaps?
Some advice for you before you next decide to post SUN.........your opinions should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it! 
I heard that DiMap is still operating just fine and these rumours are nothing more than just malicious ramblings...
Who did you hear that from, and where did you hear it? Insider information perhaps?
i know a guy who's recently had dealings with DiMap and says they're great.
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SUN? do i look like a gaseus ball of fire to you? *shrugs* Oh wait.. i get it, you're trying to be funny! .... Fail.
Perhaps your failings to actually type with a factual reply rather than a poorly constructed flame to someone you dont even know show that your own reply might have benfitted from some thought before posting.
Either way you dont know me, the least you can do is be curteous.... and yes so what if it's insider info. My comments are factual and true so why dont you go off and have a cry before you decide to randomly flame people for presenting their opinion for open discussion.
It's useless tools like you who ruin the industry commenting on things you obviously know nothing about.....
why dont you go away and learn the english language before you post again... better yet... just go have a cry into your pillow - IDGAF.
bubbye.
Perhaps your failings to actually type with a factual reply rather than a poorly constructed flame to someone you dont even know show that your own reply might have benfitted from some thought before posting.
Either way you dont know me, the least you can do is be curteous.... and yes so what if it's insider info. My comments are factual and true so why dont you go off and have a cry before you decide to randomly flame people for presenting their opinion for open discussion.
It's useless tools like you who ruin the industry commenting on things you obviously know nothing about.....
why dont you go away and learn the english language before you post again... better yet... just go have a cry into your pillow - IDGAF.
bubbye.
StandardUserName......
I've disregarded most of what you wrote, because it really doesn't say anything, and it doesn't answer the questions that I previously asked:
Who did you hear that from, and where did you hear it?
If you've got proof and facts, then answer the questions. It's that simple!
You chose to 'blast in' with your first post on PPRuNe and take a swipe at another poster who has obviously had first-hand experience with this outfit, and a bad experience too, by the sounds of things. The same poster also commented in a subsequent post about the apparent amount owed by the company.
You also made allegations of slander 'all over the web', the need for the offender(s) to get legal representation for when the company sues them, and that:
Do you seriously believe StandardUserName that as a result of nonsense like that, someone's not going to respond and tell you to put-up or shut-up? As stated earlier, if you've got proof and facts, then answer the questions.
Great demonstration of the English language StandardUserName.....NOT!
But I'll tell you one thing, sonny, you don't know me either, so the very least that you can do is to also be courteous, rather than making ill-considered and intemperate posts like your last one, and also in the vitriolic PM that you sent to me, that was then followed by a totally childish second PM.
I've disregarded most of what you wrote, because it really doesn't say anything, and it doesn't answer the questions that I previously asked:
Who did you hear that from, and where did you hear it?
If you've got proof and facts, then answer the questions. It's that simple!
You chose to 'blast in' with your first post on PPRuNe and take a swipe at another poster who has obviously had first-hand experience with this outfit, and a bad experience too, by the sounds of things. The same poster also commented in a subsequent post about the apparent amount owed by the company.
You also made allegations of slander 'all over the web', the need for the offender(s) to get legal representation for when the company sues them, and that:
maybe someone might forward this url to their MD just to get the ball rolling? 
Either way you dont know me, the least you can do is be curteous [sic]......
But I'll tell you one thing, sonny, you don't know me either, so the very least that you can do is to also be courteous, rather than making ill-considered and intemperate posts like your last one, and also in the vitriolic PM that you sent to me, that was then followed by a totally childish second PM.
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I have personally dealt with DiMap, i've found them to be friendly and reasonably well organised. They paid their bills and that's all i honestly care about.
However the last person to indicate a 'good' dealing with DiMap was flamed for saying so!
Can you blame me for not wanting to say i've had business dealigns with DiMap for fear of being called a 'dog' and being noted 'just as bad as they are' as previously mentioned in posts?
This laugable concept of GA loyalty sems just a tad far fetched, it's not my responsibility to care for the way others run their business and how they feed their family and pay for their house
My 'swipe' as you call it from my first post was hardly at any one specific user, did i mention a name?
You have overlooked the fact that you came out swinging at me from my first post. Would you expect anything less of the same from me?
My post obviously hit a nerve with you.... care to share any facts on the topic of DiMap?
However the last person to indicate a 'good' dealing with DiMap was flamed for saying so!
Can you blame me for not wanting to say i've had business dealigns with DiMap for fear of being called a 'dog' and being noted 'just as bad as they are' as previously mentioned in posts?
This laugable concept of GA loyalty sems just a tad far fetched, it's not my responsibility to care for the way others run their business and how they feed their family and pay for their house
My 'swipe' as you call it from my first post was hardly at any one specific user, did i mention a name?
You have overlooked the fact that you came out swinging at me from my first post. Would you expect anything less of the same from me?
My post obviously hit a nerve with you.... care to share any facts on the topic of DiMap?
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Oh get over yourself.... seriously.
My dealings with DiMap have been quite good, we've been paid and they were friendly and the work was a refreshing change to the norm.
My reason for not naming myself or anyone that i work with is that they will be named 'dogs' and labeled 'just as bad as DiMap' for taking on the work as previously noted in earlier posts, we do not need that kind of negative attention.
My dealings with DiMap have been quite good, we've been paid and they were friendly and the work was a refreshing change to the norm.
My reason for not naming myself or anyone that i work with is that they will be named 'dogs' and labeled 'just as bad as DiMap' for taking on the work as previously noted in earlier posts, we do not need that kind of negative attention.
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Perhaps your failings to actually type with a factual reply rather than a poorly constructed flame to someone you dont even know show that your own reply might have benfitted from some thought before posting.
Either way you dont know me, the least you can do is be curteous.... and yes so what if it's insider info. My comments are factual and true so why dont you go off and have a cry before you decide to randomly flame people for presenting their opinion for open discussion.
Either way you dont know me, the least you can do is be curteous.... and yes so what if it's insider info. My comments are factual and true so why dont you go off and have a cry before you decide to randomly flame people for presenting their opinion for open discussion.
why dont you go away and learn the english language before you post again
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Standardusername I know you are new to this forum, and probably not a pilot, but have a browse through every post on every forum herein and then send that to the 'gm' for use in a defamation suite. If anyting written on this site was usable in a defamation action there would be a lot of pilots in jail.
If you have had a good experience with this operator then good on you. There are dozens of others in this forum who have not - wake up. You don't see any of the other survey mob's being accused of these business practices. Where there's smoke, there is fire. Reputable operators don't get accused of these antics on this forum.
Maybe take a walk around Moorabbin, Essendon or Bankstown and ask about what these guys are really like to work with and if they pay bills. Or maybe you already know this. Then take a look at the County court of Victoria's archives in relation to this company, and then ASIC's archives, then the ATO's.
If you have had a good experience with this operator then good on you. There are dozens of others in this forum who have not - wake up. You don't see any of the other survey mob's being accused of these business practices. Where there's smoke, there is fire. Reputable operators don't get accused of these antics on this forum.
Maybe take a walk around Moorabbin, Essendon or Bankstown and ask about what these guys are really like to work with and if they pay bills. Or maybe you already know this. Then take a look at the County court of Victoria's archives in relation to this company, and then ASIC's archives, then the ATO's.
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G'day Penny, thanks for your warm welcome... as you state yes i am newly registered (not to be confused with new to the website) although i may not be a commercial pilot yet, I do indeed fly from time to time.
At no point in time have i ever stated that other users opinions were wrong, rather that my own experience with DiMap has been satisfactory and actually pleasant which obviously conflicts with what has been said in this thread - an opinion which according to SIUYA wasnt well thought out? Dont know how he/she came to that conclusion but oh well, moving on!
I am not the enemy here it just seems to me that too many people are so eager to ruin things for others without being fully informed, in our industry far too many people destory the lives and business reputations for people without a second thought for their own personal gain.
We lost some hundreds of thousands of dollars to a dodgy engineer some years ago who wouldnt complete maintenance iaw CASA regs, pilfered and stole components from aircraft to benefit his own - but I wont rumour his name around the world despite his actions of doing exactly that to us, so yes i know how it feels to be falsely accused.
I've been reading threads on this website for sometime and only decided that i should reply to this thread as it seemed relevent to my own operation, having dealt with DiMap previously, I diligently did my own research as i do with all my clients - I required money in the bank before a single compressor blade was turned.
The fact is people see what they want to see and when an opinion that differs from their own is presented their first reaction is to flame and discredit it.... whether it is true or not.
Perhaps if there is so much evidence of malpractice on DiMaps behalf then you would be willing to share it (privately of course) and i would be happy to divulge some of my notes to you to support the opposite?
Rumour Network or not, there's always two sides to every story and combining the two will often get you close to the truth, but not all of it.
At no point in time have i ever stated that other users opinions were wrong, rather that my own experience with DiMap has been satisfactory and actually pleasant which obviously conflicts with what has been said in this thread - an opinion which according to SIUYA wasnt well thought out? Dont know how he/she came to that conclusion but oh well, moving on!
I am not the enemy here it just seems to me that too many people are so eager to ruin things for others without being fully informed, in our industry far too many people destory the lives and business reputations for people without a second thought for their own personal gain.
We lost some hundreds of thousands of dollars to a dodgy engineer some years ago who wouldnt complete maintenance iaw CASA regs, pilfered and stole components from aircraft to benefit his own - but I wont rumour his name around the world despite his actions of doing exactly that to us, so yes i know how it feels to be falsely accused.
I've been reading threads on this website for sometime and only decided that i should reply to this thread as it seemed relevent to my own operation, having dealt with DiMap previously, I diligently did my own research as i do with all my clients - I required money in the bank before a single compressor blade was turned.
The fact is people see what they want to see and when an opinion that differs from their own is presented their first reaction is to flame and discredit it.... whether it is true or not.
Perhaps if there is so much evidence of malpractice on DiMaps behalf then you would be willing to share it (privately of course) and i would be happy to divulge some of my notes to you to support the opposite?
Rumour Network or not, there's always two sides to every story and combining the two will often get you close to the truth, but not all of it.
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The best way to find the truth in this issue is to ask around, and all the humbug suggests this is a very dodgy operation.
I know personally that families and induviduals have lost big money at the hands of these guys, and they don't pay bills because legal fees are too high for contractors to bother suing for outstanding monies.
The fact that over 10 GA operators used by them in the last 5 years and will no longer touch them with a barge pole - go figure.
A rumour network yes, but the reason this site has credability is because almost every rumour here has some credability, this one certainly does.
Have fun working with them generic name, maybe it is you who should consult a lawyer, because when they don't pay you, lets see how you feel!!
I know personally that families and induviduals have lost big money at the hands of these guys, and they don't pay bills because legal fees are too high for contractors to bother suing for outstanding monies.
The fact that over 10 GA operators used by them in the last 5 years and will no longer touch them with a barge pole - go figure.
A rumour network yes, but the reason this site has credability is because almost every rumour here has some credability, this one certainly does.
Have fun working with them generic name, maybe it is you who should consult a lawyer, because when they don't pay you, lets see how you feel!!
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Seems as though we each have our own opinion PB, i feel for those who have lost out on being paid truely i do, it's not a good position to be in at all.
Perhaps indeed their time will come and the matter can be amicably resolved for them, maybe not.
From an operators point of view perhaps allowing such a sizeable debt to be carried was a poor business decision? What can you do, stop service? But if the only other option is bankruptcy then surely you have no choice?
How much money can your business afford to carry to a debtor?
Where do you draw the line? 10k? 20k? 50k? 250k?
Either way, seems like the answer is pretty clear to me.
Perhaps indeed their time will come and the matter can be amicably resolved for them, maybe not.
From an operators point of view perhaps allowing such a sizeable debt to be carried was a poor business decision? What can you do, stop service? But if the only other option is bankruptcy then surely you have no choice?
How much money can your business afford to carry to a debtor?
Where do you draw the line? 10k? 20k? 50k? 250k?
Either way, seems like the answer is pretty clear to me.
