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Hi All
Due to the demise of my former employer I find myself pushing CVs again.
Can anyone enlighten me as to the Air Nelson interview process.
Anything else about the company would be appreciated.
PM if you like.
Kind Regards
Prop
PS Chin up to all the MacDoggers and congrats to those few who've scored slots already
Due to the demise of my former employer I find myself pushing CVs again.
Can anyone enlighten me as to the Air Nelson interview process.
Anything else about the company would be appreciated.
PM if you like.
Kind Regards
Prop
PS Chin up to all the MacDoggers and congrats to those few who've scored slots already
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They have filled the interview slots for this month. Not sure what is planned for the future considering not much movement out there and thats prob enough hiring for the new planes coming.
Got to have recent NZ flying time, ...even if you have experience on a turboprop bigger than the Q300.
HR lady SB still acts as the filter.
Got to have recent NZ flying time, ...even if you have experience on a turboprop bigger than the Q300.
HR lady SB still acts as the filter.
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I have been turned down because of it.
"...a way of protecting those that stayed in the country..." SB divulged.
I had SB on about it, and had a negative comment placed on my file because of that, I have since discovered. Which has further prevented interview when I tried some internal contacts.
"...a way of protecting those that stayed in the country..." SB divulged.
I had SB on about it, and had a negative comment placed on my file because of that, I have since discovered. Which has further prevented interview when I tried some internal contacts.
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That kind of discrimination just has to be illegal (not to mention comprehensively stupid).
If that's the level of professionalism that they demonstrate in their recruitment... well...
And yes, I was told the same thing in years gone by. I mean, the very thought that NZ IFR is harder than, say, the London TMA, is so laughably ridiculous that it beggars belief.
We all fly to the same ICAO standards, so exactly why is NZ IFR so hard?
Although I suppose it's about all you can expect from a management straight out of the aero club who have never flown anything bigger than a Dash...
If that's the level of professionalism that they demonstrate in their recruitment... well...
And yes, I was told the same thing in years gone by. I mean, the very thought that NZ IFR is harder than, say, the London TMA, is so laughably ridiculous that it beggars belief.
We all fly to the same ICAO standards, so exactly why is NZ IFR so hard?
Although I suppose it's about all you can expect from a management straight out of the aero club who have never flown anything bigger than a Dash...
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Bull****. During my years at air nelson i flew with many returning expats (africa, aussie, hong kong etc) and overseas pilots who had not any recent nz flight time, in some cases had never set foot in nz prior to starting with air nelson. Me thinks its a nice way of saying thanks, but no thanks to filter out angry men. nuf said.
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Funny then that in my case - and I am sure others will have had similar experiences - I was told about the 50 hour requirement before I had even submitted a CV or applied in any way. I hadn't even given them my name, I just happened to meet the then Chief Pilot, who told me about the requirement when I made a general comment about entry requirements for Air Nelson. he went on to comment on how it was designed to weed out those who had gone overseas and "jumped the queue". I never bothered applying and went on to much bigger and better things.
Anyone who knows how Bob Inglis operates will not be surprised in the least - that's where it came from.
Angry? No. Relieved? You bet! Saved from years on little turboprops.
More to the point, it doesn't matter who such a rule is intended to weed out, it is still illegal under NZ discrimination laws.
Anyone who knows how Bob Inglis operates will not be surprised in the least - that's where it came from.
Angry? No. Relieved? You bet! Saved from years on little turboprops.
More to the point, it doesn't matter who such a rule is intended to weed out, it is still illegal under NZ discrimination laws.
Yes, Yes the 50hr requirement - It is a load of crock!
I too asked the powers that be about it when I worked there some years ago and got the whole queue jumper story. Kiwis go abroad for experience and that experience gained is called queue jumping WTF?
Remoak, you are right on the money!
I too asked the powers that be about it when I worked there some years ago and got the whole queue jumper story. Kiwis go abroad for experience and that experience gained is called queue jumping WTF?
Remoak, you are right on the money!
it really isn't the size that matters.
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Turboprops are great, I was thinking more of the number of years without parole that you can end up doing on them in companies like Air Nelson.
Had a lot of fun flying Jetstreams and F27's, but four of five years of it was more than enough!
Yeah, NZ (and Aussie I guess) is the only aviation environment in the world where you get penalised for widening your horizons and experiencing airspace that is actually busy. Such is the small-mindedness that exists in some companies. Bitter and twisted ex-instructors who saw some of us getting some overseas experience on fast shiny things while they were still circuit-bashing, and decided to get even with any who dared to go overseas, when they eventually rose to power in the likes of Air Nelson. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.
Had a lot of fun flying Jetstreams and F27's, but four of five years of it was more than enough!
Yeah, NZ (and Aussie I guess) is the only aviation environment in the world where you get penalised for widening your horizons and experiencing airspace that is actually busy. Such is the small-mindedness that exists in some companies. Bitter and twisted ex-instructors who saw some of us getting some overseas experience on fast shiny things while they were still circuit-bashing, and decided to get even with any who dared to go overseas, when they eventually rose to power in the likes of Air Nelson. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.
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minimum wage, and pool boy, perhaps those guys got in when 'experienced' pilots were scarce, or they simply called when SB wasn't at her desk...
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Remoak - Get your hand off it, if overseas is so sweet then why do you want to come back. I think its bloody good Air NSN do it. It means some dude who has gone overseas, made his money and has flown around this busy airspace you w@nk on about, cant come back to NZ on a whim and take a job away from a young guy who has done his yards in GA and wants to move up.
If you think these guys go home and cry on thier pillows because they didnt go fly "fast, shiny things" overseas you'd be sadly mistaken, who'd want too if you had to sit next to a somebody with your attitude. They probably go enjoy the outdoors, spend time with the family or take the boat out. Which is probably why they stayed in NZ in the first place.
"Angry? No. Relieved? You bet! Saved from years on little turboprops"
Im relieved too. Its means I dont have to fly with you.
If anyone is bitter and twisted its you.
If you think these guys go home and cry on thier pillows because they didnt go fly "fast, shiny things" overseas you'd be sadly mistaken, who'd want too if you had to sit next to a somebody with your attitude. They probably go enjoy the outdoors, spend time with the family or take the boat out. Which is probably why they stayed in NZ in the first place.
"Angry? No. Relieved? You bet! Saved from years on little turboprops"
Im relieved too. Its means I dont have to fly with you.
If anyone is bitter and twisted its you.
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Lots of bollocks here.
The idea that some young guy who didn't go overseas has automatic ownership of jobs here - bollocks.
The idea that a returning Kiwi is less entitled to work here than someone who has never left these shores - bollocks.
The idea that those of us who went overseas didn't also do the hard yards in GA - bollocks.
You represent all that is worst about NZ aviation. Parochial, xenophobic, completely ignorant of aviation outside these shores. Head stuck firmly 30 years in the past (or up your arse, if you prefer).
Some of us were like you, until we went overseas and had our eyes opened for us. We discovered a world where pilots are employed on the basis of their skill and ability, not on where they have been flying recently. We discovered that getting a job was not about how many times you washed the planes for free or how often you stuck your tongue up the bosses butt. It was about your CV and how you perform in the sim. This known as a Level Playing Field - a rare thing in your world.
Thank God we didn't end up as ignorant and blinkered as you clearly are. As you say, it is good that we won't fly together, as I have little time for bigots.
The idea that some young guy who didn't go overseas has automatic ownership of jobs here - bollocks.
The idea that a returning Kiwi is less entitled to work here than someone who has never left these shores - bollocks.
The idea that those of us who went overseas didn't also do the hard yards in GA - bollocks.
You represent all that is worst about NZ aviation. Parochial, xenophobic, completely ignorant of aviation outside these shores. Head stuck firmly 30 years in the past (or up your arse, if you prefer).
Some of us were like you, until we went overseas and had our eyes opened for us. We discovered a world where pilots are employed on the basis of their skill and ability, not on where they have been flying recently. We discovered that getting a job was not about how many times you washed the planes for free or how often you stuck your tongue up the bosses butt. It was about your CV and how you perform in the sim. This known as a Level Playing Field - a rare thing in your world.
Thank God we didn't end up as ignorant and blinkered as you clearly are. As you say, it is good that we won't fly together, as I have little time for bigots.
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NSN, there have been more than a few times where I have nodded in agreement with you on a great many things....
That isn't one of them.........
Many of us left to go overseas thanks in no small part to the attitude you have just put into words, it merely reinforces the perception that NZ can and is a small place with even smaller minded people, it also goes to show that lurking beneath the surface..there exists all the same old petty attitudes.
I'm sure that Air Nelson has its good points and its bad points, moreover I'm also fairly confident it has its fair share of good buggers and bastards, but to suggest that those of us who went offshore (in many cases making far far bigger sacrifices than those who stayed) are less worthy/capable/deserving....makes you no better than the Aeroclub management who instituted these alleged policies in the first place.
Your comments are in a word, pathetic.
I think its bloody good Air NSN do it. It means some dude who has gone overseas, made his money and has flown around this busy airspace you w@nk on about, cant come back to NZ on a whim and take a job away from a young guy who has done his yards in GA and wants to move up.
Many of us left to go overseas thanks in no small part to the attitude you have just put into words, it merely reinforces the perception that NZ can and is a small place with even smaller minded people, it also goes to show that lurking beneath the surface..there exists all the same old petty attitudes.
I'm sure that Air Nelson has its good points and its bad points, moreover I'm also fairly confident it has its fair share of good buggers and bastards, but to suggest that those of us who went offshore (in many cases making far far bigger sacrifices than those who stayed) are less worthy/capable/deserving....makes you no better than the Aeroclub management who instituted these alleged policies in the first place.
Your comments are in a word, pathetic.
Remoak - Get your hand off it, if overseas is so sweet then why do you want to come back.
ZK-NSN you reek of inexperience and I would guess that Air Nelson is your first airline job so congratulations!
I have been overseas and don't regret it one bit but there does become a time when one wants to return home. Cash and experience gained abroad are vaulable but what draws most kiwis home is the lifestyle. GET IT?
ZK-NSN you reek of inexperience and I would guess that Air Nelson is your first airline job so congratulations!
I have been overseas and don't regret it one bit but there does become a time when one wants to return home. Cash and experience gained abroad are vaulable but what draws most kiwis home is the lifestyle. GET IT?
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I guess its just a matter of perspective. Sorry to offend but I have to say I found remoaks post to be extremely arrogant, hence my terse reply. Maybe thats why overseas returnees have difficulty?
I find the idea that you think these guys who stayed, got to a management position are that upset at the guys who did well overseas that they wouldnt give them a job...Thats bollocks, but like i said its all about perspective.
Better get to work.
I find the idea that you think these guys who stayed, got to a management position are that upset at the guys who did well overseas that they wouldnt give them a job...Thats bollocks, but like i said its all about perspective.
Better get to work.