Jetstar NZ Pay
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Jetstar NZ Pay
Just got the word on what the Jetstar NZ sub will be paying it's pilots.
Captain A320 Base Pay $119,000 NZ Dollars
F/O A320 Base Pay $ 72,000 NZ Dollars
NO super, NO retention bonus and NO company peformance bonus.
Also, no position on the JQ AUS seniority list.
What a great deal.............
What kind of
head would even consider this??
And worse still you have to live in NZ
Captain A320 Base Pay $119,000 NZ Dollars
F/O A320 Base Pay $ 72,000 NZ Dollars
NO super, NO retention bonus and NO company peformance bonus.
Also, no position on the JQ AUS seniority list.
What a great deal.............
What kind of
head would even consider this??And worse still you have to live in NZ
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Muff Hunter,
While these salaries will not generate any enthusiasm amongst current Australian and NZ airline pilots, they will be looked on as a good opportunity for our 3rd world brothers to live and work in and ulitmately become citizens of NZ......and then have right of abode in Australia. These jobs should be looked upon as a huge threat to the salaries and work conditions of all OZ and NZ pilots. The current airline bean counters and HR depts will be salivating at the opportunities this may present in their ongoing attack on the profession.
While these salaries will not generate any enthusiasm amongst current Australian and NZ airline pilots, they will be looked on as a good opportunity for our 3rd world brothers to live and work in and ulitmately become citizens of NZ......and then have right of abode in Australia. These jobs should be looked upon as a huge threat to the salaries and work conditions of all OZ and NZ pilots. The current airline bean counters and HR depts will be salivating at the opportunities this may present in their ongoing attack on the profession.
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You may find a few Kiwi expats would return to NZ to work under those conditions, especially from the desert. Cant blame them really, after all, no place like home, however it doesnt do much for the pilot body at large within the QF group. Just another chance for QF managment to play one group of pilots off against another and whoever is cheaper gets the guernsey. Good luck fella's.
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Why has this thread been moved to GA & Questions? Is working for JetStar now in the the ranks of GA?
The salary for an FO is equal to $57,500 AUD, to fly up to 1000 hours a year, pay for the rating and have it deducted from the salary, do the same job as the Australian colleagues, wear the same uniform etc etc
Sounds truly pitifull.
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TID EDIT:
Because discussions about T&C's go in GA and Questions
The salary for an FO is equal to $57,500 AUD, to fly up to 1000 hours a year, pay for the rating and have it deducted from the salary, do the same job as the Australian colleagues, wear the same uniform etc etc
Sounds truly pitifull.
Mat Finish
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TID EDIT:
Because discussions about T&C's go in GA and Questions
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I think in the current climate with so many people being suddenly unemployed that this might look a bit more tempting.... I don't think that those people could be classed as heads.
Also can I ask the mod's why this was moved from reporting points to the GA forum... I think that it being an airline it would be more suited to the airline forum.
(I will now take cover while the mods give me a ban for pointing out an obvious bias
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heads.Also can I ask the mod's why this was moved from reporting points to the GA forum... I think that it being an airline it would be more suited to the airline forum.
(I will now take cover while the mods give me a ban for pointing out an obvious bias
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Hmmm. Let's see. Cessna 210 this week, Jetstar A320 next week. 3 times the money.
I reckon they will get plenty of eager applicants.
Alan Joyce has already stated that he thinks you don't need to be that good to fly a modern jet.
I reckon they will get plenty of eager applicants.
Alan Joyce has already stated that he thinks you don't need to be that good to fly a modern jet.
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Not sure about endo cost....
But, you can be sure that it's either sal sac or pay up front JQ will not foot the bill.....
Also, current pilots were ripped off by JQ when they did their endo by about 3k, they paid the GST compenent but JQ didn't have too, and when the pilot group questioned them on they said it was an admin fee...
The management of this airline is a disgrace from Joyce down!!
But, you can be sure that it's either sal sac or pay up front JQ will not foot the bill.....
Also, current pilots were ripped off by JQ when they did their endo by about 3k, they paid the GST compenent but JQ didn't have too, and when the pilot group questioned them on they said it was an admin fee...
The management of this airline is a disgrace from Joyce down!!
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Why has this thread been moved to GA & Questions? Is working for JetStar now in the the ranks of GA?
Im sure, as usuall, there will be a que of twits keen to work for next to nothing. Oh and pay for the privilage.
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Good to see the Qantas and other pilots groups up in arms again and ready to defen.....eh?....boys?....everybody?.....where are they all?...helloooo?..
Ooooh...thats riiigghttttt ,they joined the cowards club 19 years ago and have sat on their hands ever since due to being scared of their own shadow!!
Christ...even the bloody wharfies showed more balls than the current leadership types in aviation!!!
No wonder this industry has become a standing joke in regards to terms and conditions!
Ooooh...thats riiigghttttt ,they joined the cowards club 19 years ago and have sat on their hands ever since due to being scared of their own shadow!!
Christ...even the bloody wharfies showed more balls than the current leadership types in aviation!!!
No wonder this industry has become a standing joke in regards to terms and conditions!
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Can someone tell me what the payscales for the Christchurch based crew are?
I heard that the pay was acceptable which makes me think (if this thread is accurate) they are going to try to get away with paying the AKL based crew less
, this tactic of different payscales works in managements favour for a little while but inevitably it ends in tears for both sides of the fence.
$119,000 NZD a year for a 320 captain seems a bit unreasonable to me....even for a so called "low cost" carrier.
I heard that the pay was acceptable which makes me think (if this thread is accurate) they are going to try to get away with paying the AKL based crew less
, this tactic of different payscales works in managements favour for a little while but inevitably it ends in tears for both sides of the fence.$119,000 NZD a year for a 320 captain seems a bit unreasonable to me....even for a so called "low cost" carrier.
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It is simple market forces. I doubt that Jetstar will have any difficulties filling the seats at those rates, in fact I understand that they have been inundated with applications. look around you and see how many unemployed, jet-qualified pilots are out there. Add up all the Kiwi expats who suddenly found themselves out of work in Europe over the last few months when their jet jobs disappeared...
The idea that a pilot who accepts this salary is somehow harming his colleagues is standard 60's Antipodean thinking that the rest of the world got over years ago. You are worth whatever the market dictates. The idea that pilots are magically entitled to some fanciful salary figure only really exists in Oz and NZ. Everybody else knows better. The world has moved on.
Still, you can always accept the job and then strike for higher pay - another well-worn Antipodean path. Good luck with that.
If you just want the money, go and be a deck hand on the Manly ferry - I'm sure you will enjoy every minute.
Right, now where's that flak jacket...
The idea that a pilot who accepts this salary is somehow harming his colleagues is standard 60's Antipodean thinking that the rest of the world got over years ago. You are worth whatever the market dictates. The idea that pilots are magically entitled to some fanciful salary figure only really exists in Oz and NZ. Everybody else knows better. The world has moved on.
Still, you can always accept the job and then strike for higher pay - another well-worn Antipodean path. Good luck with that.
If you just want the money, go and be a deck hand on the Manly ferry - I'm sure you will enjoy every minute.
Right, now where's that flak jacket...
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Let me see a deck hand on the Manly ferry, with all those lovely north shore ladies and backpackers to look at every day, plus no check flights every 6 months, no medicals to worry about, no back of the clock work, umm who has the better job!