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Old 24th Dec 2008, 06:11
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In a pilot's logbook usually page 1, there is a personal particulars 'address' column. If you run out of space, can you simply use white out or do you need to afix some kind of official CASA change of address label on the page with your new details?

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Old 24th Dec 2008, 06:21
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I moved places that many times i just always had my parents address on my licence and written on the front page of my logbook. (last count it was 8 times in my GA career and you fit a bit over 2000 hours per logbook flying charter, or a tad less than 1000 if you're instructing and hammering TIF's and Circuits)

Can't see the harm in a bit of white out, i know you're not supposed to white out in the flying columns either, but i always have! I can't stand the look of a messy logbook and white out if required! (usually with the tape stuff!)
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You need to apply to CASA for a "Change in Address for Logbook" sticker, which is a sheet of stickers with folding flaps to enable them to track your past addresses. They cost $25 per sticker, and can take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.







Nah, just kidding. Whiteout is fine.

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You need to apply to CASA for a "Change in Address for Logbook" sticker, which is a sheet of stickers with folding flaps to enable them to track your past addresses. They cost $25 per sticker, and can take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.
No! Don't even joke about it! Some bureauprat will read it and before you can say "Cost Recovery" we'll all be obliged to subscribe to an address sticker amendment service.

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You need to apply to CASA for a "Change in Address for Logbook" sticker, which is a sheet of stickers with folding flaps to enable them to track your past addresses. They cost $25 per sticker, and can take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.

the sad part is I took you seriously at first!
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I didn't even blink in surprise either.
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How about if you just do it in PENCIL - its legal, and as you 'move around' it is much easier to 'amend'....

Or 'Post it notes'....

And , save yourself the $25.....
(Good one Mr L.)
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I don't fill it out. Is it a requirement to do so?
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On the cover page where it says "may not use correction fluid" I always cross out the word not

How ridiculous..who wants sribbles and crossouts all through their log book?
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On the cover page where it says "may not use correction fluid" I always cross out the word not
Cross it out? Surely you'd white it out...

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You need to apply to CASA for a "Change in Address for Logbook" sticker, which is a sheet of stickers with folding flaps to enable them to track your past addresses. They cost $25 per sticker, and can take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.
No! Don't even joke about it! Some bureauprat will read it and before you can say "Cost Recovery" we'll all be obliged to subscribe to an address sticker amendment service.

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At first I actually believe it ...

but seriously if you are young and moves all the time (like me) then there is no harm to use your parents address. I use it for almost everything even though I have move out for 4 years.
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On the cover page where it says "may not use correction fluid" I always cross out the word not

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Cross it out? Surely you'd white it out...


No no. If "may not use correction fluid" is written, just use the tape version!

Parents address on just about everything works a treat.
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Old 26th Dec 2008, 21:02
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"I don't fill it out. Is it a requirement to do so?"


Sure is. CAR 1988 states:

5.52 What must be recorded in a personal log book?
(1) The holder of a flight crew licence, a special pilot licence or a
certificate of validation must record in his or her personal log book:
(a) the holder’s full name, address, date of birth and aviation
reference number; and

and

"An offence against subregulation (1) or (4) is an offence of strict
liability"

So, $550 fine if you got charged, although you could just write it in to avoid that..
 
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Do you need a proper CASA logbook now? I am getting back into flying and back then you could you use an excel document printout as your logbook? Or so I thought...
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Blue Carpet, that still works. As long as its printed out, presumably with your full name, address and ARN on it somewhere (as a footer would be nice).
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I think i read somewhere that if you use a digital logbook, you've got to be able to print and bind it....

I have a copy of my logbook on excel just to have a duplicate record and also auto-add specific hours (very handy!) etc.
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I used to write everything on excel to back it up, gets a pain in the arse after a while, even filling my logbook often gets overlooked and put off. I now just photocopy each page as i complete them and whack them in a file - just in case
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I can't be bothered photocopying my logbook due to it's strange dimensions (I've got the standard Aviation Theory Centre one) so I've taken to just snapping a picture with my camera every now and again. I don't even have a special folder, it just stays in there with the family pics (digital, not printed of course).

With respect to the address I just use pencil and with errors in my logbook I just use white-out. (If that's not good enough I'll photocopy the damned thing and call that my paper copy.) My logbook was scrutinised by CASA for 4 weeks after a company pilot's bingle and they said nothing untoward about my entries (pencilled address, white-out correction fluid and use of one of the specialist/instructor columns for recording landings and IALs).

On a slightly related topic I've done this with my camera for many Flight Manuals as well (for study purposes). It's just easier to snap the pics whilst sitting in there than to take a flight manual from the aeroplane (yikes as it's not able to fly if it's not onboard) and it sure as hell beats trying to do an engineering sheet based on some schools handling notes.

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With reference to the instructions in the front of my Aviation Theory Centre logbook does anybody know where I can find the successor to AIC H5/98? Ta,

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Just pencil it in. Makes for easy amendment.

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