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Old 23rd Dec 2008, 23:58
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Shame on you guys, none of you are thinking like an accountant, who's the one running your company/organisation. The PC-12 is clearly the most efficient cheapest and safest aircraft to operate, "UNTIL" the engine stops for any reason, doesnt really matter, survival is not budgeted for, there's medical costs, court cases, wheel chairs, third degree burns, this goes on and on forever, very expensive, no! no! no!, we want high speed impact with the ground, total loss no survivors, Tragic Loss, very sad. Insurance replaces the airframe, new crew all back the way it was within a month, after 6 months no-one remembers it, never happened.

So what was this argument about again??? how soon we forget.
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Old 24th Dec 2008, 00:20
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'Xeptu' sadly yr post is 'dead' right, all too soon how we forget.
I heard just the other day that it's 20 yrs since the Lockerbie crash, sadly I had forgotten all about it.
Airlines are now run by accountants (or fake ones) & we now have an entirely different ball game these days. The other RFDS sections that operate the PC12's do it for one pure reason, cost! What price hey?



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Old 24th Dec 2008, 00:29
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Turnbacks

There is some interesting reading on Prune in the flight testing section. Go there and search "turnbacks'.
Apparently the RAF stopped doing it, because the training was killing more than the normal operations. A bit like double assymetrics in a 707.
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Old 24th Dec 2008, 03:04
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I wouldnt need a job flying a single in IMC at night ...no ta..
I wouldnt ride in the back of one either
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Old 24th Dec 2008, 06:12
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Then there's the story of the early Aerocommander which flew from the factory field to the testing centre with the second prop stowed in the cabin.... can't attest to the truth of that one.

Can talk though about a Van EFATO at TL in Jan this year where the driver was in IMC and managed to turn it around and land on the reciprocal RWY off the ILS....was lucky though, the TL 2 S departure tracked him south, then east then back overhead before taking up track to the destination (MA) so he was at 4200' / 4nm (I think) when it went quiet.....wonder what woulda happened if he was tracked straight out to the west on T/O, would have been IMC over major tiger country at low alt

TWB - the C90 - some believe the pilot was incapacitated by the uncontained fan disintegration which explains why he took no corrective action; otherwise he would probably have either shut it down and overrun, or continued the T/O and at least theoretically been able to fly it away on the one remaining engine. We will never know for sure.
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Old 24th Dec 2008, 22:57
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What can happen on a night cloud break after a failure

Happy Xmas all

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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 04:47
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So what was the RFDS/Vic Air Ambulance Kingair doing in Darwin last weekend?
Showing the NT government and health department what a new B200 looks like?
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Old 3rd Jun 2009, 21:23
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Showing the NT government and health department
I expect a few will be in bed this week

Health Minister quarantined with suspected swine flu - Northern Territory News
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Old 4th Jun 2009, 03:40
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Obvious to much time with there snout in the trough!

Interseting about the B200 in Darwin, doesn't the Vic Air Ambulance contract come up for renewal shortly and requires four new aircraft.

RFDS SE section wouldn't be taking over the Pearl contracts by any chance?
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Old 4th Jun 2009, 20:02
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I guess with the CLP still out in the wilderness, Pearl mightn't have the political clout to regain the contract with their elderly B200's against the RFDS
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 10:03
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The last report stated new / newer machines to do the job.
NT Govt will therefore have to dig deeper into their pockets regardless of successful bid and a/c type.
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 11:13
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The NT "government" got a few more pressing things to consider at the moment
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Old 5th Jun 2009, 12:30
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Tinny, you know as well as I do, that just because they have other things that warrant considering, doesn't mean that they will be considered. Priority has a whole different meaning in the NT from my past experiences whilst there.
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Old 14th Mar 2010, 11:18
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Anyone know where this is at yet. I have heard of a few interested parties for this fairly large contract.
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Old 14th Mar 2010, 11:22
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Rumour has it that RFDS Central feel confident.
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Old 14th Mar 2010, 11:32
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what was the rfds pc12 doing there 6 weeks ago...?

only to have a b200 rock up more recently??

perhaps they had to come back with a real plane??
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Old 15th Mar 2010, 00:34
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Don't know which one was there but it could have been Western Ops delivering patients or Central Ops doing an IHT out of Alice.

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Old 15th Mar 2010, 00:35
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Enough blackfellas using it as a taxi service in the NT, don't need the WA ones abusing it too
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Old 15th Mar 2010, 07:56
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????? "NT Aeromed" - Did you get the wrong thread for your reply mate?
Did he have a patient onboard? (12.5 hours - maybe going via Norfolk Island...)

Xcel et al.
Not that uncommon lately, to see the Western Ops people at NTAMS in Darwin, waiting for an ambulance...

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Old 15th Mar 2010, 08:10
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There appears to be two "NT Aeromed" threads running kind of in "parallel" at present...

This is the older of the two, and I've just been reading through it again. Lots of twin v single (predictably ) but early on, a lot of comment about Pearl's "old" aircraft.

Now we all know this contract is definitely coming up on significant changes (refer other thread), and the aging fleet is likely one of the precipitants of the changes. It's worth stating again (well I'd like to anyway) that the NT Government got exactly what it asked for (and were prepared to pay for) in that department...

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