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Old 23rd Oct 2008, 06:59
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Bandit pilots - EMB 110 speeds, accelerate-stop

2 quick questions relating to EMB110's:

- Does anyone know if any accelerate-stop data is published for this aircraft?

- Does anyone know if V1 data is published for this aircraft?

(POH that I am referring to has neither. Aircraft certification basis is not clear.)

Cheers for any assistance.
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Probably SFAR41C part 23 commuter but don't quote me on that..does it not have a AFM tucked under the seat somewhere?
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The FAA Flight Manual had ll that information available. Some E110's in Australia had FAA manuals, but, I understand these have all been replaced by Embraer manuals.
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Thanks Dog One, didn't know about that. I only have an old Embraer manual available which does not include that data.

mattyj: EMB-110 is (just) pre SFAR41.
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try asking someone at AEROMIL in MCY... or AIR SOUTH, in ADL.
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cheers Apache... Already spoken to the Aeromil guys.
Will try Air South and a few others over the next few days to see if I can dig up an FAA FM.
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What do you want to know that stuff for? It will only scare you!
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I take back what I said about SFAR41.... SOME bandits are cert'd to SFAR41. Which may explain why the FAA FM has accel-stop data.


HH: monkey business
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The E110 requires some mods to be operated in transport Cat. Eg. Stainless steel firewalls, modified main oleos and fire bottles fitted. As far as I am aware CASA have not permitted them to operate in Transport Category in Oz. May be wrong here but that's the way it was a few years back. We used a decision speed for take-off which was similar to a Take-off safety speed. Not permitted to use V1 v2 etc. as these apply to CAO20.7.1b above 5700kg. Different story n the US.
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Try Air Rarotonga I did over 1900hrs with them. But there are other guys who have done close to 10,000 over there! Awesome machine

V1/Vr at MTOW 5670kg 100kts - V2 108, off the top of my head
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From the point of view of a procedural approach/aerodrome controller...

I would query whether a Bandit actually accelerates at all!!
They definitely stop once established on the ARC!! Once saw one overtaken by a seagull in a headwind!
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