Plane down in darwin
Originally Posted by Pluto's gone
A 210 can carry a ****e load of fuel although it has been many moons. 5 pob and tabs = what around 4.5 hours of flying?
last time i was at Ycoo, which a quick look in the log book says may, there was drums of avgas down there but i sure as 
wouldn't want to put it into my plane, more water and iron oxide than fuel.
Good effort on the pilots part getting that down and having everyone walk away.
wouldn't want to put it into my plane, more water and iron oxide than fuel.Good effort on the pilots part getting that down and having everyone walk away.
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After looking at the photos, I would comment that after hitting the power line, the pilot had little choice where the aircraft was going to finish up, he had just become a passenger. Thanks should go to the Cessna designers that designed the Cessna single engine aircraft with the passenger module the strongest part of the aircraft. No doubt the force landing check was carried out and the tightened seat belts prevented serious injury to the occupants.
Bad news for the GA operators in Darwin business wise.
Bad news for the GA operators in Darwin business wise.
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Apparently darwin - cooinda - darwin is about 2.5 hrs. Tabs is about 4 hrs.
How about you join those dots.
Maybe instead of all this speculation we should wait and see the result of the investigation.
Good job Pilot. Hope no one on this site has to be a passenger in their own A/C.
How about you join those dots.
Maybe instead of all this speculation we should wait and see the result of the investigation.
Good job Pilot. Hope no one on this site has to be a passenger in their own A/C.
"Apparently darwin - cooinda - darwin is about 2.5 hrs. Tabs is about 4 hrs.
How about you join those dots."
Darwin-Cooinder-Darwin would be a pretty sad scenic Miss B. Not much to see on that one, however, if you carry on a bit further and have a look at the falls and the odd weird shaped rock on the escarpment then tourists will have something to look at. When you've finished looking at all that , check your fuel state, if there is a bit of weather in Darwin, an inter perhaps,....well, join those dots.
"Maybe instead of all this speculation we should wait and see the result of the investigation."
Speculation on this forum is interesting and educational , it hurts nobody and makes a few people think about different possibilities. It's a particularly good tool for less experienced GA pilots who are learning their trade.
How about you join those dots."
Darwin-Cooinder-Darwin would be a pretty sad scenic Miss B. Not much to see on that one, however, if you carry on a bit further and have a look at the falls and the odd weird shaped rock on the escarpment then tourists will have something to look at. When you've finished looking at all that , check your fuel state, if there is a bit of weather in Darwin, an inter perhaps,....well, join those dots.
"Maybe instead of all this speculation we should wait and see the result of the investigation."
Speculation on this forum is interesting and educational , it hurts nobody and makes a few people think about different possibilities. It's a particularly good tool for less experienced GA pilots who are learning their trade.
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Speculation on this forum is interesting and educational , it hurts nobody
Fair enough Voice, I'm always ready to be proved wrong. Maybe I should have written "can be interesting and educational" . I think a lot of it is both of these things, however I agree with you that it is not always both of these things.
Unless you were getting at the bit about "hurting nobody", again I stand to be corrected but I can't think of an example. I was involved in an incident that was speculated about on these forums a few years ago and it didn't bother me or my family at all because we knew what had happened, and knew that most of the speculation was off the mark. It doesn't matter if people are barking up the wrong tree because this is a rumour network and not an official investigation board. As long as people are thinking then it's a good thing in my opinion. Cheers.
Unless you were getting at the bit about "hurting nobody", again I stand to be corrected but I can't think of an example. I was involved in an incident that was speculated about on these forums a few years ago and it didn't bother me or my family at all because we knew what had happened, and knew that most of the speculation was off the mark. It doesn't matter if people are barking up the wrong tree because this is a rumour network and not an official investigation board. As long as people are thinking then it's a good thing in my opinion. Cheers.
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So many UFO's lately,lot about near Feral dee Doo, I reckon it could have been wake turbulence from a stray Thron beam knocked out the engine 
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Single engine aeroplanes do have engine failures and subsequent glide approaches, this is not the first or the last in Australian Aviation, in this situation the PIC is far from a spectator, well done to the pilot for saving the passengers lives.
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Must have been that thron beam... Miracle it didnt ignite all that fuel spewing from the ruptured wing tanks not to mention sparks from the broken power lines? Good to see no one was hurt.
ah yes - the rumor network that is read by journo's, and the rumor finds its way back to the tabloids read by the unknowing.
If I say "good on the pilot for saving those peoples lives" , when I can have no way of knowing if he did or not, is the statement worth anything? do you think he gives a rats? He'll know if he is happy with how the situation was handled, he will know if the situation was made better or worse by his actions. Really, I don't think speculation will worry the people who are privvy to the facts.
I am glad that nobody was seriously injured.
PS. I highly doubt that Thron beam wake would play a part in this particular acident as the entire Barrier fleet were fitted with anti-thron decopulating winglets last June in preparation for the upcoming wet season.
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Love all the speculation and the interest it generates, if any good can come of this, then that's a good thing. But lets face it, it seems some of you will only except one explanation. No beating around the bush, you want it to be fuel starvation. This is only one possibility, and it should certainly be discussed to reinforce fuel issues, not only with junior pilots but more experienced flyers aswell. Back to my point, there are other causes of forced landings that should also be raised and discussed to help educate everyone.
So, if you have a point to make, just come out and say it and stop this inuendo.
I'm sure the pilot did the best he could in the circumstances, just like most of us would.
Well done to the pilot, and Cessna for their very survivable A/C.
It's great to see that the majority of us support the pilot in has actions and only a small minority insist on shooting down an already downed pilot.
So, if you have a point to make, just come out and say it and stop this inuendo.
I'm sure the pilot did the best he could in the circumstances, just like most of us would.
Well done to the pilot, and Cessna for their very survivable A/C.
It's great to see that the majority of us support the pilot in has actions and only a small minority insist on shooting down an already downed pilot.
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Looking at the pics it is amazing that no one was injured. Yes well done indeed.
Was the gear down? Hard to see in the pics. I would imagine so, disipating some of the impact. Have seen a 210 crash with fatalities that looked alot more surviveable than that one.
One less 210 out there. Wonder if a single will ever be built that is good, robust and economical as the ole 210?
Was the gear down? Hard to see in the pics. I would imagine so, disipating some of the impact. Have seen a 210 crash with fatalities that looked alot more surviveable than that one.
One less 210 out there. Wonder if a single will ever be built that is good, robust and economical as the ole 210?
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The pic suggests the PIC may have hit the "wing disconnect" button like that lucky fella late last year down south in the Cessna PA-28 that went in. Obviously the 210 has a superior wing disonnection system that retains the some of the inboard wing section so you can have some shade before the ambos arrive. I hope the media stooging through these pages don't cotton-on to this system or we'll have no tricks left up our sleeves.
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Crash NO Burn!!! Sparks from broken live power cables make a great ignition source... Wheres Blind Fredy!!I mean the Fuel... Dont think the ATSB will even bother making the trip to the top end. No loss of life and the buildup has started 