Getting a C-Cat
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Getting a C-Cat
Howdy folks,
I'm currently doing my CPL in NZ and I have to decide what to do next in my training, MEIR or C-Cat?
I've heard different opinions but my main goal is to get over to ozzy where the weather is nicer and the jobs more rewarding. Some tell me that this cant be done without a C-Cat, others tell me I should go with just my CPL and I wont have trouble finding work.
Any advice from others who have done this?
Im not too worried about the type of work, I just wanna fly at this stage and build up some hours.
Cheers
I'm currently doing my CPL in NZ and I have to decide what to do next in my training, MEIR or C-Cat?
I've heard different opinions but my main goal is to get over to ozzy where the weather is nicer and the jobs more rewarding. Some tell me that this cant be done without a C-Cat, others tell me I should go with just my CPL and I wont have trouble finding work.
Any advice from others who have done this?
Im not too worried about the type of work, I just wanna fly at this stage and build up some hours.
Cheers
If you want to be an instructor by all means do an instructor rating, there are plenty of good courses in NZ. However, if you are only thinking about doing an instructor rating to build hours then don't bother. There are plenty of jobs outside of NZ that won't require you to have an Instructor Rating.
I highly recommend getting your Instrument Rating, I would even suggest if you were to do an Instructor Rating that you do the Instrument first, it gives you a different skill set and helps to make you a well-rounded pilot (same can be said of the instructor rating, but I don't believe in doing one purely to build hours at the expense of some poor student).
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I highly recommend getting your Instrument Rating, I would even suggest if you were to do an Instructor Rating that you do the Instrument first, it gives you a different skill set and helps to make you a well-rounded pilot (same can be said of the instructor rating, but I don't believe in doing one purely to build hours at the expense of some poor student).
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Or you could just do your Instrument Rating in NZ where it is cheaper and include it in your CASA conversion...
I would by all means recommend sitting your MEIR in NZ, then converting to Aus and looking for work.
I would by all means recommend sitting your MEIR in NZ, then converting to Aus and looking for work.
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If you intend forging a career in GA in Australia then do your IFR training in Australia. Yes, you can do it in NZ and get it put on your CASA license at first issue. And it might be a bit cheaper in NZ, I don't know. But chances are you might have to do some re-training in Australia at some stage anyway. So will it work out cheaper?
If you're looking for a VFR job in Australia that doesn't require an IFR rating then the cheapest option would be to not get an IFR rating yet. Get your foot in the door in GA in Australia, then do an IR rating in Australia when you're ready for a multi IFR job there. If you go across with a fresh NZ IFR rating thinking you're ready to fly IFR in Australia then you'll get an unpleasant surprise. Quite a few little differences in the Australian instrument rating exam syllabus to the NZ syllabus.
If you're looking for a VFR job in Australia that doesn't require an IFR rating then the cheapest option would be to not get an IFR rating yet. Get your foot in the door in GA in Australia, then do an IR rating in Australia when you're ready for a multi IFR job there. If you go across with a fresh NZ IFR rating thinking you're ready to fly IFR in Australia then you'll get an unpleasant surprise. Quite a few little differences in the Australian instrument rating exam syllabus to the NZ syllabus.
While I agree with Skytops that a bit of retraining will likely be required, (see the thread I just started re differences) I would still reccommend getting the IFR rating in NZ if you are doing it on a student loan. You will start getting charged interest as soon as you leave NZ but will have a 3 year repayment holiday to build your career.
The reason I say this is not because one licence is better than the other, but rather, because on single engine GA wages, you wont be saving much towards that instrument rating. If youve got cash saved up for the rating, then yes, put it away, make some interest on it, and do the rating when youre ready to use it.
Im sure youve heard this a million times before, but only go the instructing way if you think you will enjoy it. There are plenty of opportunities in OZ to get through your career without instructing, in fact, the instructing route will likely take you longer to reach an airline, if that is your goal. In the short-term, however, I think that instructing usually provides a more stable income. (And you learn a hell of a lot too)
The reason I say this is not because one licence is better than the other, but rather, because on single engine GA wages, you wont be saving much towards that instrument rating. If youve got cash saved up for the rating, then yes, put it away, make some interest on it, and do the rating when youre ready to use it.
Im sure youve heard this a million times before, but only go the instructing way if you think you will enjoy it. There are plenty of opportunities in OZ to get through your career without instructing, in fact, the instructing route will likely take you longer to reach an airline, if that is your goal. In the short-term, however, I think that instructing usually provides a more stable income. (And you learn a hell of a lot too)
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I learnt to fly in NZ and have flown IFR in both countries, I gotta agree that if you want to stay here in Oz and do your IR first, then do it here. As has already been said, its quite different here and you'd do well to learn it the Aussie way if ya wanna use it here.