Holding Pattern DME limit
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Holding Pattern DME limit
This is a question I have:
You are entering a holding pattern. It has a 15 DME limit. This means:
a. you must complete you turn inbound without passing 15 DME
b. you must fly outbound until you reach 15 DME, then commence your turn inbound
c. you must commence your inbound turn at or by 15 DME
d. nothing if it is a 1 min pattern as you will always turn inbound well before 15 DME
The answers say it's C
But in the jepp's it says-
You are entering a holding pattern. It has a 15 DME limit. This means:
a. you must complete you turn inbound without passing 15 DME
b. you must fly outbound until you reach 15 DME, then commence your turn inbound
c. you must commence your inbound turn at or by 15 DME
d. nothing if it is a 1 min pattern as you will always turn inbound well before 15 DME
The answers say it's C
But in the jepp's it says-
"DME LIMIT
Is the DME distance at which the outbound leg of the holding pattern must be terminated and the inbound turn commenced."
Is the DME distance at which the outbound leg of the holding pattern must be terminated and the inbound turn commenced."
To my understanding that means the answer is B. Can anyone help?
eg. If it's a 1 min pattern....
Start the turn at 1 min OR 15DME; whichever occurs first!
(You may have a strong tailwind outbound, reaching the DME Limit before the time
Start the turn at 1 min OR 15DME; whichever occurs first!
(You may have a strong tailwind outbound, reaching the DME Limit before the time
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Next paragraph in Jepps Terminal AU-6 (4.3.1) "The pilot may shorten the holding pattern to leave the holding fix at a specified time."
b. implies that I must always wait until I reach 15 DME.
c. tells me I can can commence the turn at 15 DME or before hand if I choose to do so (ie shortening is allowed).
Little bit of an english test, but they're trying to check that you've read and understood the next paragraph and not just the DME limit paragraph.
b. you must fly outbound until you reach 15 DME, then commence your turn inbound
c. you must commence your inbound turn at or by 15 DME
c. you must commence your inbound turn at or by 15 DME
c. tells me I can can commence the turn at 15 DME or before hand if I choose to do so (ie shortening is allowed).
Little bit of an english test, but they're trying to check that you've read and understood the next paragraph and not just the DME limit paragraph.
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Uhh what debate? Ryda's book, myself and down3gr33ns have all said C.
It was an atpl air law question
This question came up in my ATPL Air Law exam at the end of May. It was an English comprehension exercise! The way you have written it is far clearer than CASA did.
Despite spending probably 5 mins. trying to see what they wanted I still got it wrong!
(The AIP ref. is ENR1.5-25, 3.5, 3.5.1, 3.6, 3.6.1)
Despite spending probably 5 mins. trying to see what they wanted I still got it wrong!
(The AIP ref. is ENR1.5-25, 3.5, 3.5.1, 3.6, 3.6.1)
