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Old 17th Jul 2008, 03:56
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Authorities search for crashed plane near Mt Isa

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Authorities search for crashed plane near Mt Isa

Posted 2 hours 48 minutes ago
Updated 1 hour 55 minutes ago



Emergency Management Queensland (EMQ) helicopters from Townsville and Cairns are flying to north-west Queensland to search for the pilot of a light plane that crashed this morning.

Department of Emergency Services spokeswoman Kylie McIntosh says the injured pilot called for help just before 11am AEST, but was only able to give a vague location of the crash site.

"He's believed to be somewhere near a station a couple of hours north of Mt Isa [according to] the reports that I have," she said.

"So It's quite vague, which is why we've sent out the EMQ choppers from Townsville and Cairns.

"The pilot of the plane did in fact contact aviation authorities in Brisbane.

"He said he was injured and unsure of his position."
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Plane crash pilot found alive near Mt Isa

Posted 37 minutes ago

A pilot has been found alive in north-west Queensland after crashing his plane this morning.
Police say the plane came down north of Mount Isa before 10:00am AEST.
It is believed the pilot made a call to authorities earlier in the day to alert them of the crash.
Police spokeswoman Xanthe Dines says details of the accident are still sketchy.
"A male pilot - who was also the sole occupant - is actually being transported to hospital at the moment," she said.
"He's reported to have serious injuries but is in a stable condition.
"The crash site was actually 50 kilometres north of Mount Isa in fairly rugged terrain.
"Police are currently at the scene and will obviously be commencing an investigation into the crash."

Source: ABC National News
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Anyone have any idea of the rego of the aircraft?
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it was a Savannah Air PA.31 don't know the rego
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I believe IHR........
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Glad pilot is ok. As soon as i heard the location i immediately thought of Savannah.
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sure its not LJI
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Old 17th Jul 2008, 08:52
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Geez Lasio, I am losing it!

PA31 IHR(?) as I heard it. Story goes it had a double engine failure.

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If it's a double engine failure no twin is going to fly too far I would think! Let's stand by for the facts shall we......
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Double engine failure?

Ah, at least its safer than a single PT6
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Let's stand by for the facts shall we......
What the f*ck!

What does the"R" in the title of this forum stand for?

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Ah, at least its safer than a single PT6
OOooooh..........thems fighting words, them is youngun.
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...story goes it had a double engine failure...
Yeah, I reckon this is a rumour network. Now be it rumour or not, there is a very short list of things that will make a twin go quiet on both sides simultaneously.
One of them involves finger trouble, the other involves not having anything to be having finger trouble with.

How do I know this? Because a mate lost himself, 4 of his pax and a machine as a consequence of the 1st. The various quasi-political entities involved in the aftermath of that tried desperately to prove 'twere the other and as such an organisational issue, but the truth is there to be seen, if you look.

Both potential causes are easily fixed: for the 1st, keep in mind, if it ain't f'd, don't fix it... for the other put plenty in, land before you exhaust it.

Sadly, this is a situation all to often repeated. Experience can't be bought... or beat.

There are only 3 things in aviation you will ever find absolutely useless...

altitude above you,
runway behind you, and
air in your tanks...


Be careful out there.
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Mate, you are missing your vocation. You should be working in the ATSB. If your report writing is as quick as your investigation you could clean up the backlog in no time.
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Good one!!
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Originally Posted by ballsdeep
I feel sorry for the pilot, I don't believe its his fault
'scuse me??? If the cause of this crash is as it seems it is, who's fault do you consider it to be??? Was there someone else managing the fuel supply to either the airframe or the engines??? I think maybe you need a reality-check ballsdeep.

If your post was intended to lament the abysmal training standards evident within industry, you need to be clear on that. There are any number of threads running on that. Any pilot rated in a Chieftan (indeed, any aircraft) to single-pilot ops must be competent to operate that aircraft and take responsibility for their own mistakes.

Do you need someone to check and assume responsibility for your cleanliness every time you wipe your arse??? If not, don't try to absolve someone else of their responsibilities when they have screwed the pooch.
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I would have been wrapped if my first job was in a PA31.
Probably in a body bag.
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When the Whyalla airlines chieftain accident happened I swore that the pilot must of run out of fuel, I was very very wrong, and I did the wrong thing by a colleague who is no longer around to defend himself. So how about we wait till we get some facts before we hang this very lucky bloke, he is after all one of us.
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a valid point Aerodynamisist, but (and it's a huge but) in the Whyalla crash, both engines did not stop simultaneously -one kept running until lack of maintenance, poor in-flight decision making and planning and poor engine handling dealt to it too. Whilst on the face of it the parallels may exist, it's a huge stretch to assume that similar events occurred here, particularly given the lack of any supporting evidence.
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My heart goes out to the little dude who pranged this one, a hell of a nice guy with what sounds like some very nasty injuries. With the experience he has just been through and the pain he will go through during his recovery, I'll be seriously surprised if he EVER flies again. A real shame for this bright, impressionable young man who, given the right environment and circumstances might have gone on to lead himself a successful career in avaition. Instead, there goes years of flying training and thousands of dollars and one kid's dreams. I hope i'm wrong.

Personally knowing the pilot in question, I would not be at all surprised if this one was put down to mismanagement of the fuel system. But in saying that, i'm not for a second saying that I believe it's his fault.

It's like giving some kid a basic drivers licence and then throwing them in a V8 supercar, out on the track in live competition with nothing but a few hours basic instruction. Then all of a sudden, the kid flies off the track and crashes into a wall. Gee, I WONDER WHY THE FCK HE CRASHED??? Sure, there are technical explinations for what he did wrong but there is one glaringly obvious answer that everyone is overlooking. Who was the _ucking Knob who was supposed to be in a position of responsibility and knowing full well the fate they were tempting, put him there in the first place?

Say you walked up to a 200 hour pilot and offered them a job on the Concorde. Think there would be anyone out there who would say 'no thanks, that's a bit beyond my capabilities right now. I want to spend some time building experience on less complex aircraft first". Yeah right. So long as 200 hour wonders continue to receive offers for these positions, they will continue to accept them. Some of these pilots will have natural talent, a history of good, quality training and a lot of luck and pull it off. Others might have a history of crap training, won't be quite as capable or quite as lucky and this will continue to happen.

Wanna blame someone? Blame the crap instructors who taught him. Blame the operator who should know better but continues to recruit cheap 200 hour wonders who are well out of their depth. But don't blame the starry eyed kid who just wanted to be cool like the rest of us. He is the last one who should have known better.
 


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