PPL Flight Test
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They may stick you under the hood for 15 or 20 and then ask what town you're over when the hood is removed. If you know the town ,and there's a good chance you will, at least pretend to work our where you are using your map and ground features.
Or you could use time ,speed and heading from your position when the hood was placed on your melon, but that would be cheating.
Or you could use time ,speed and heading from your position when the hood was placed on your melon, but that would be cheating.
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please don't do what i did after a perfect cross through Amberly ATC when Active, correctly identify a little town, perform a textbook PFL then a low level diversion to Milmerran only to decend through the live side of the circuit 
, instant failure....... although 2 weeks later finished off the rest no prob's..............
Good luck you'll do fine
(Just out of interest on my Pre-Test while doing an entry into an incipent spin in an Archer, we flipped it upside down has anyone else done this?, we tried again but it to no avail.)
, instant failure....... although 2 weeks later finished off the rest no prob's..............Good luck you'll do fine
(Just out of interest on my Pre-Test while doing an entry into an incipent spin in an Archer, we flipped it upside down has anyone else done this?, we tried again but it to no avail.)
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I would say take it easy don't get stressed up. My Instructors stressed that when under immense stress, pilots tend to make mistakes.
Relax take it easy just like any other flight.
Do your checks out loud.
Be prepared for anything. I left my flashlight back in the breifing room and when the CFI asked for it he explained to me that we have to be prepared for anything even if we are only day VFR rated.
All the best! You can do it!
btw: Let me know if you logged the flight test as PIC or dual. Kinda forgot to fill that in and lost contact with my instructor.
Relax take it easy just like any other flight.
Do your checks out loud.
Be prepared for anything. I left my flashlight back in the breifing room and when the CFI asked for it he explained to me that we have to be prepared for anything even if we are only day VFR rated.
All the best! You can do it!btw: Let me know if you logged the flight test as PIC or dual. Kinda forgot to fill that in and lost contact with my instructor.
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Guys I made itttt!!!
wohoeeee....thanks to EVERY1 who has contributed to this thread. despite this being a rumour network and home to a lot of negative posts/comments, i am thankful that there are people who are always positive in their approach and willing to help out other pilots....
Did most things okay....didnt infringe CTA or anything of that sort...Airmanship was exceptional, according to the ATO. PSL marginal for not having too much practice. Diversion good, PFL very good, full stalls (Y) .
Thank you again guys and i hope I am able to learn things from all of your positive nature. Very kind of you all.
Done with all my CPL theory papers. CPL, here I come........!!
Richie
Did most things okay....didnt infringe CTA or anything of that sort...Airmanship was exceptional, according to the ATO. PSL marginal for not having too much practice. Diversion good, PFL very good, full stalls (Y) .
Thank you again guys and i hope I am able to learn things from all of your positive nature. Very kind of you all.
Done with all my CPL theory papers. CPL, here I come........!!
Richie
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Originally Posted by bentleg
Don't think you can log as PIC if you are not licensed to fly the aircraft.
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I concur...
My flight examiner advised me to log my PPL flight test as PinC... in red pen... apparently this is the tradition...
It is my understanding, that all flight tests are PinC...
My flight examiner advised me to log my PPL flight test as PinC... in red pen... apparently this is the tradition...
It is my understanding, that all flight tests are PinC...
CAO 40.1.0, para 10.3 The holder of a student pilot licence may log as time in command only that time during which he or she is the sole occupant of an aeroplane in flight.
You are not the sole occupant of the aircraft in flight, therefore you cannot log the test as 'command'.
Having said all of that, does this therefore mean that a student pilot who holds a GFPT, and therefore permitted to carry passengers, is not permitted to log the time flown while carrying passengers, as s/he is not the sole occupant of the aeroplane in flight?
Is the GFPT a student pilot licence or, is it the a "Restricted" PPL?
GFPT pass means you know how to fly the 'plane, but not how to fly cross country. You can fly in command with an instructor's approval, usually within, but not confined to, the local area. You can carry passengers in the local area with an instructor's approval. PPL removes these restrictions.
Restricted PPL no longer exists - was the fore-runner of GFPT I think.
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Been checking this thread waiting for the update on how his test went... and only just realised I missed the post up there! 
Congrats mate...
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As for the whole logging time thing... I guess they just do things different in Austruckafalia...
The weird part is that we also have:
So I guess it is the Flight Examiners discretion as to whether or not you can act as PinC...
Congrats mate...
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As for the whole logging time thing... I guess they just do things different in Austruckafalia...
CAR 61 Subpart C - Student Pilots
61.107 Limitations
A person who does not hold a current pilot licence issued in accordance
with this Part must not act as pilot-in-command of an aircraft—
(1) for remuneration; or
(2) if the aircraft is being operated for hire or reward; or
(3) on an international flight; or
(4) if any other person is being carried on the aircraft other than a flight examiner or flight instructor.
61.107 Limitations
A person who does not hold a current pilot licence issued in accordance
with this Part must not act as pilot-in-command of an aircraft—
(1) for remuneration; or
(2) if the aircraft is being operated for hire or reward; or
(3) on an international flight; or
(4) if any other person is being carried on the aircraft other than a flight examiner or flight instructor.
CAR 61 Subpart A - General
61.31 Pilot logbooks – crediting flight time
(f) A flight examiner is entitled to be credited with pilot-in-command
flight time while carrying out a flight test.
61.31 Pilot logbooks – crediting flight time
(f) A flight examiner is entitled to be credited with pilot-in-command
flight time while carrying out a flight test.
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Thanks guys
Thought I would buy myself a six pack of beer but cant wait to start CPL navs. Alas, still havent managed that so far
so have one for me guys!!
Thought I would buy myself a six pack of beer but cant wait to start CPL navs. Alas, still havent managed that so far
so have one for me guys!!
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Bresso
You just have to love the man, he still does my FIR(A) and I really look forward to flying with the old "B" When you wake up he is only trying to load you up and put some extra pressure on you.
It's easy to fix yourself, just tell him to "Gordon Ramsey" OFF !! he will love it trust me.
Kickatinalong,
It's easy to fix yourself, just tell him to "Gordon Ramsey" OFF !! he will love it trust me.
Kickatinalong,
