PRE start checklist for cessna 177 rg cardinal

[ratso]

Would any body have the above pre start check list for a fuel injected LYCOMING 200HP

Seems to be a bit of conjecture whether you leave the electric fuel pump on or off for start

[Ultergra]

All the answers you need are in the Flight Manual...

Have a read, and do as it says

[ratso]

Dont have a manual yet..
aircraft not back from fly away for 3 weeks

[27/09]

Only flown the carby Cardinal but assuming engine is same as the PA28R, and I'm pretty sure it is, pump on for priming and off for the start.

As far as I know the pump should never be on for the start on any Lycoming fuel injected or carby. Used for priming prior to start, and then back on prior to take off and landing.

[LocoDriver]

I did a type rating on one in 1973, and still have the 177RG 'owners manual"
(Flew the RG during the 1970's)

From Memory, it had a strange start re fuel pumps and priming, will dig out details tonite and send you a PM.

It could be a pig to start if you didnt get it right first time!
The aircraft was DJL, at Rex Flying school at Ardmore
Smooth and fast when airborne.

Ohhhhh, thats showing ones age!!!

[Sunfish]

My guess would be exactly like a lot of other fuel injected Lycomings.

throttle closed, mixture rich, pump on.

Open throttle just a little until you see fuel flow needle move, then immediately close it. (primes the engine)

Fuel pump off, mixture ICO, crank.

When it fires, immediately set mixture full rich.

[tcross]

does this help? http://pages.prodigy.net/jedinein/c177sop.html

BEFORE STARTING ENGINE
1. Preflight Inspection -- COMPLETE
2. Passenger Briefing -- COMPLETE
3. Seats, Belts, Shoulder Harnesses -- ADJUST and LOCK
4. Brakes -- TEST and SET
5. Cowl Flaps -- OPEN
6. Radios, Electrical Equipment, Avionics Power Switch -- OFF
7. Landing Gear Lever -- DOWN
8. Fuel Selector Valve -- BOTH
9. Circuit Breakers -- CHECK IN
STARTING ENGINE ABOVE FREEZING
1. Mixture -- IDLE CUT-OFF
2. Propeller -- HIGH RPM
3. Throttle -- OPEN 1/4"
4. Master Switch -- ON
5. Auxiliary Fuel Pump -- ON
6. Mixture -- ADVANCE to obtain 4-6 gph fuel flow, then return to IDLE CUT-OFF.
7. Rotating Beacon -- ON
8. Propeller Area -- CLEAR
9. Ignition Switch -- START, RELEASE when engine starts
10. Mixture -- ADVANCE slowly
11. Throttle -- SET to desired idle speed
12. Oil Pressure -- CHECK
13. Auxiliary Fuel Pump -- OFF
14. Radios, Avionics Power Switch -- ON
15. Transponder -- Standby

[LocoDriver]

Thanks Sunfish and Tcross,
thats the start procedure, must be getting old...................

Cheers

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

Tempffish

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Instruments
Switches/Circuit Breakers

Done and dusted.

FRQ CB

[Lasiorhinus]

Sounds unnecessarily hard and complex.

Unlike the engine in a Bonanza. One of the easiest engines to hot-start I've found in a long time. Wouldnt you agree, Jabawocky?

[aileron_69]

Ive flown this model a lot in the past. The easiest way to get her to go is push everything foward ie throttle, prop and mixture, give it a quick squirt on the fuel pump, and i mean quick, like 2 seconds, then mixture idle cutoff and throttle just cracked and do the standard lycoming deadcut start. Whatever u do in the old girl, dont over prime it and dont try and start it with the pump on or u will get nowhere.

[MakeItHappenCaptain]

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Mixture(s)
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Flaps
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You may find this is a pre-takeoff mnemonic, not an engine start sequence.

Some people include;
T-Trims and Throttle Friction,
P- Pitch and Primer
H- Hatches and Harnesses

Point being these mnemonics have many variants, eg BUMPFISCH or BUMFH for pre-landing checks.
Anything used however should not be anything less than the manufacturer's items as per the flight manual/poh.

[Lodown]

I'm probably showing my age. Used to operate a variety of single engines, including 177's, 205's, 210's, 36's, 35's, IO-520's, 540's, 740's and started them all the same way, whether hot or cold. Intentionally flooded the engine. That way there was never any doubt as to whether the cylinders had too little fuel or too much. They all start with full throttle, mixture idle cut-off, pump off in accordance with the flight manual directions for flooded engine. Never, ever had a problem with a start unless there was some other issue.

[aileron_69]

Yeah thats how ive always done it with any IO-540s ive flown but the old bitch of a 177 I had didnt like that much. Was prob a dud one I reckon. Only did 120kts too!!

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

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