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Drink driving - anyone gone pro with a DUI charge under their belt?

Old 27th Mar 2008, 23:04
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Drink driving - anyone gone pro with a DUI charge under their belt?

Around 5 or 6 years ago, I got picked up by the boys in blue and blew 0.08 in their alco-mometer. Not the smartest thing i've ever done. Had my day in court to which I entered a plea of guilty and lost my licence for a couple of months.

Roll on to present day. I now have 1500 total, 500 multi, and all ATPL subjects, yet the regionals won't have a bar of me. Just curious if there are any people out there who've gone pro with a DUI charge under thier belt, or will I have to wait until spent convictions kicks in?

Thank you dears

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Old 27th Mar 2008, 23:23
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good question 'stero'. I guess by the fact that they won't have a bar of you says it all. I know that should you ever apply for flying jobs where security is involved (other than an ASIC) you would be pushed aside.
We've all done dumb things over the years including drink driving yr certaintly not alone there, most have never been caught tho. I see the results of their (drink drivers) actions thru my work here & believe me there's not enough penilties for drink drivers.There's compelling reasons as to why such things may follow you for life.
I hope for yr sake that it doesn't follow you thru yr life as a commercial pilot because I hope yr more responsible behind a different wheel these days. Maybe others here can advise on more specific results from the same dumb previous actions. My comments are not directed at you personally (like I said we have ALL done dumb things) it's more I see so much sadness that has come form something that is so preventable!

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Old 28th Mar 2008, 00:14
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I dont have that particular misdemeanour under my belt but have others and I have never been passed over, I know others with similar stories. I would be confident you will get your shot.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 04:39
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hey mate
i got done back in 2002 but so far has luckily had no affect with my flying or employment with the regional airline i work for. I dont think this charge is the end of the world for you.

PM me if you want more info but i only check this site maybe once a week so may have to wait a bit for a response but i will get back to you.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 07:11
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Don't worry too much, it goes down as a traffiic offence. That doesn't get picked up in an asic check.
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 18:17
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But its not just the ASIC check they do yeh? When QF employs you, they only do an ASIC check?
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Old 28th Mar 2008, 22:27
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When QF employs you, they only do an ASIC check?
Nope you have to get the works. A full back ground check by the Australian Federal Police and you also have to obtain a certificate from your state police clearing you of any criminal history.
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CASA want to know, hence it's amongst the questions your doc will ask you in your class 1 renewal.

If it's just a once off, not a pattern of behaviour, it won't impinge on your career significantly. At previous employer one pilot confessed to a DUI charge to the Chief Pilot (necessary) and was told that put him in the majority at that (NT) operation. Said pilots now flying 737s, 767s, A330s and E-Jets.
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 08:14
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I know a QF driver who has a DUI conviction and two other minor convictions.

I imagine any drug or violence related convictions may be a problem. Drug convictions will rule you out of an ASIC
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Dont blow the bag driving to work.
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Old 29th Mar 2008, 13:34
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I happen to know a guy who had 2 DUI charges and it never affected his move into regionals nor his move into a 744 for an unnamed company...

Cant imagine your the only one out there, stress less mate...

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DUI Charge

Hi,

I read your post regarding Drink Driving and hope you don't mind me messaging. I have 2 DUI charges (One Spent) and wondered if the Airlines want a full Criminal Report or simply apply for the Airside Pass on your behalf.

Any info greatly received.

With thanks.
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Suggest you start here and gather your facts.

Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Website

Employers can ask for your background history but you have the right to decline to provide it ( you may not get the job).

That said you also have rights to privacy and in many cases some "criminal" history may not need to be disclosed. All I can suggest is that when an employer hands you forms to sign for them to run a check you should ideally take them home, read the wording carefully and if possible call the authorities that will be providing this information and ask them what they will indeed be providing the employer in return.

In many cases drink driving is often not mentioned in criminal history checks to employers unless jail term accompanied the offence. Alternatively applying for a bank tellers job having been convicted of armed robbery would in all liklihood be disclosed.

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DUI

I maybe wrong, again, but I think D.U.I. is a criminal offence and P.C.A. is a driving offence, maybe one of our legal members could enlighten us?
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Tin...

P.C.A.?
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of course its bloody wrong!!!!
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VH-Cheer Up,

The following is in reference to NSW legislation:

PCA = Drive with either Low, Medium or High range of Prescribed Concentration of Alcohol obtained by either bloodtest or breathanalysis.

DUI = Drive Under the Influence of intoxicating liquor. Evidence provided by Police re observations of your state of sobriety. Eg: Unsteady, smell of intoxicating liquor, slurred speech etc.. without reference to a positive blood alcohol analysis. This type of charge was all that was used before the invention of breathanalysis equipment.

DUI is very rarely applied these days in reference to drink driving. Only used when a breath or blood test is unable to be obtained for whatever reason. Although, I understand it has been extended to be used in reference to driving under the influence of drugs, albeit separate legislation.

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To have a blood alcohol content levelof 0.0% at sign on time how many hours previous should alcohol not be comsumed and in what quantity ?
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That depends on a lot of factors. Your age, gender, body mass index, state of mind, you tolerance to alcohol, type and quantity of food consumed and during or before alcohol consumption etc. I am a casual drinker but i do get carried away with the boys sometimes but i would not touch alcohol for at least 24 hours before signing on.
If you get invited to a bucks night where there is a good chance that you get totally shitfaced make sure you do it three days before you get in the cockpit and drink lots of water to help your body recover.

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Drink Gin and Tonic!!

Gin is the poison and Tonic is the cure..perfect.
Fixes the shakes too if you've had a run in with the mossies
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