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first employers for newby's

Old 28th Feb 2008, 08:02
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first employers for newby's

Well since the wheel has finally turned and it appears that even employers who once simply shook a tree to get a new CPL are now having to advertise I thought that perhaps we could organise and have a listing of those employers that you would prefer to be employed with as a first time new pilot.

I am not interested in actual bashing of employers, I am just after those who have been there done that to arrange possible first employers listed into the order that they would prefer to be employed by if they had to do it again. I am obviously only really interested in charter companies rather than flying schools. Perhaps someone interested in flying schools could add a list of those from the instructors perspective.

Anyway here is a very short quick starting list, but if those who have been there and would like to add to the list and put into an order they would like then I am sure it would be appreciated by any newby’s about to head “up North” soon. Indeed I for one would be most grateful.

Air Frontier
Chartair
Alligator Airways
Broome Air Servcies
Broome Aviation
Geraldton Air Charter
Skyways
Wrightsair
FTDK airways (for when he gets too old to fly himself!!!!!)

Please no bashing of companies or I fear this will get closed, simply a list from your most preferred to least preferred. No need to expand on reasons.

Thanks in advance for any information
Cheers
Mr B.

P.S. I appreciate that those who have been there might see this as a shortcut to getting out there and if this is the case so be it, but perhaps we could put this aside to help any new pilots out there trying to crack a decent first job.
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 11:53
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Great List i am also lookin to go up north soon, found a few whilst searchin good old google,

AAA Charter
Batavia coast Air charter
SKY Safari
Daintree Air services
Hardy Aviation
Air Australia
Kingleopold Air
Kakadu Air
Kalbarri Scenic Flights
opal air
Sharp Airlines
Sling Air
Trackair Adventures
Tropic Air
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 12:53
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Mr B,

Perhaps you need to define which employers are actually employees????

I am guessing when you are refering to those that employ, they are employers, those others that work for a living are employees

All very confusing........

I am going back to my lunchbox

Keep smiling sunshiners
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 20:38
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Nor sure what you mean, but lets just define and employer as someone who is going to employ a brand new CPL holder as a pilot actually doing flying duties!!! Not sure where the ambiguity is?

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Old 29th Feb 2008, 08:02
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I heard if you work for alligator airways you will fly max hours every months
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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 01:47
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Ad Katherine Aviation to your list as well. Main base out off Tindal.

Flying up north is fun and can be challenging, and with that I don’t necessarily mean the flying but also dealing with the native pax (they call them different over there)

As long as one can put up with the fact that they smell a little bit different (to put it politely)
And you don’t mind doing lots off hours off charter work a month, and live remote. (in some cases)than it is a lifetime experience.

And if you wondered what a CB looks like than NT is the place to be in the wet.

cheers
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Old 9th Mar 2008, 07:39
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Good Idea - Not Yet Catching Fire

Mr B, you had a great idea here, but not too many replies. It looks like a good way for pilots to share positives, ie, Bloggs Airways subsidised my housing, didn't charge me for endos, only asked that I stay 6 mos, etc. Does this mean that a lot of individual "deals" are struck? I wonder.

Cheers, BN
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Old 19th May 2008, 12:30
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First time jobs up north are best in Broome + Kununurra plus also a few in Halls Creek and Wyndham. Worked at alligator in Kununurra last year was absolutely awesome and smashed out about 90 hours a month.
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Old 19th May 2008, 13:04
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Try polar aviation in Headland if you find it hard to get your foot in the door in Broome it works as every man and his dog is in Broome. You will get around 600hrs in 12 months of flying mostly in Barons and a C208.

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Old 19th May 2008, 13:06
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Howdy all,
Long, long time reader, first time poster!

I was hoping this thread would come back alive, so much potential!

Anyways, I notice there are a few charter/scenic operators in Geraldton (namely Shine, Geraldton Air Charter and Batavia Coast). Do these guys hire 200-250hr newbies or are you a better chance with a few more hours under your belt?

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Old 19th May 2008, 13:34
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FTDK airways (for when he gets too old to fly himself!!!!!)

Mr B - I suspect you got a ways to go to make the minimum experience for Forkair!

How many triple-GPS approaches to minima while posting smartarse lines on Ppro*ne have you notched up?

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Old 19th May 2008, 14:00
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Its Okay Dr.
Lets see if the finish of my CPL training coincides with your retirement from flying!
Doubt it will!
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Old 19th May 2008, 14:34
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Norwest airwork in exmouth is a good start for new fellas (and fella-ettes).
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Gee, Pyro - how long were you planning on taking??
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Old 19th May 2008, 16:02
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opal air



Unless this is a new one, this company went out of business around 20 years ago.

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Old 19th May 2008, 23:05
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Opal Air - give it a miss

Opal air is still around as far as I know, up to last year anyway. Based in Coober Pedy. The pay is well below the award, you'll need a second job. and if you don't have 5 hours in a C172RG and C210 he'll charge you for it. If you don't have the time on the wages you'd get I worked out it it would take 100 hours of flying before you broke even! I don't think you'd be getting close to maxing your hours out there!
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Old 19th May 2008, 23:38
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The pay is well below the award, you'll need a second job. and if you don't have 5 hours in a C172RG and C210 he'll charge you for it.
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Old 20th May 2008, 00:02
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Any thoughts on flying schools & instructing roles that are worthwhile?
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Old 20th May 2008, 01:03
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King Leopold (best boss and location)
Anindiliyakwa (back in the old days best pay and conditions in NT)
Sudholz (best chance of an airline job straight fom pistons)

Slingair (hours an equipment)
Chartair (skills you would pay for)
GAS (progression and real charter)

These were really good jobs to get. For some it was a the second job and not the first.

Of the first 3 I'm still to meet a pilot that had anything but praise for the operator which was back when there was about a million pilots to choose from really says something.

Met one of the owners of anindili - and it didn't surprise me, a real gentleman.

I'm sure there are many other really really good jobs out there.

No I never got a job with any of them but came very close with one.
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Old 20th May 2008, 01:20
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1st post so be nice! (or else i'll cry...)

What about Hardy's? I've heard they're a top quality mob, with good gear. I think they want around a grand hrs though?
It sounds like Darwin isn't as hard to get into as it used to be. Nice!

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