Advice on conducting CPL training & syllabus
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Advice on conducting CPL training & syllabus
Hey guys,
Hoping somebody might be able to offer a little advice and provide some direction.
I've got my PPL and have decided, given the current climate, to continue on and finish do my CPL. I've been told different things by different people, but heres what I understand I can do;
1. Complete an 'intergrated' CPL course, consisting of 150 hours, 70 of which must be command time. Since I've got about 50 dual and 20 hours command in the book, I figure that I need another 50 hours of command and therefore another 30 hours of dual at LEAST.
2. Within this 50 hourss of command, and 30 hours of dual, I need to complete NFVR rating and CSU/Retract endo.
So questions;
1. What other requirments are there to actually sit the CPL test? Aside from the theory? Do I need to do a certain number of Navs/exercies or just meet the minimum hours?
2. Whats the best way to spend the 50 command hours I've got to get up? Aside from flying some mates around the countryside.
3. I'm told thats its best to complete the CPL in a single and then worry about ME rating afterward. This could make the test a little easier I suppose.
4. How do I keep these costs to a minimum? I've been flying out of YMMB at a school that has a good reputation, but the costs arn't what I'd call easy to burden. Maybe I should build those 50 hours in a Jabiru?
5. How best do I complete it? I work full time, but can take 4-6 weeks off to complete flights and theory full time if I thought that would work.
6. Advice on self study/complete a theory course?
Love your work guys,
Airbumps
Hoping somebody might be able to offer a little advice and provide some direction.
I've got my PPL and have decided, given the current climate, to continue on and finish do my CPL. I've been told different things by different people, but heres what I understand I can do;
1. Complete an 'intergrated' CPL course, consisting of 150 hours, 70 of which must be command time. Since I've got about 50 dual and 20 hours command in the book, I figure that I need another 50 hours of command and therefore another 30 hours of dual at LEAST.
2. Within this 50 hourss of command, and 30 hours of dual, I need to complete NFVR rating and CSU/Retract endo.
So questions;
1. What other requirments are there to actually sit the CPL test? Aside from the theory? Do I need to do a certain number of Navs/exercies or just meet the minimum hours?
2. Whats the best way to spend the 50 command hours I've got to get up? Aside from flying some mates around the countryside.
3. I'm told thats its best to complete the CPL in a single and then worry about ME rating afterward. This could make the test a little easier I suppose.
4. How do I keep these costs to a minimum? I've been flying out of YMMB at a school that has a good reputation, but the costs arn't what I'd call easy to burden. Maybe I should build those 50 hours in a Jabiru?
5. How best do I complete it? I work full time, but can take 4-6 weeks off to complete flights and theory full time if I thought that would work.
6. Advice on self study/complete a theory course?
Love your work guys,
Airbumps
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This won't be the be all and end all of advice, but here are some thoughts:
Good idea, plus the training should be GST free.
Negative, don't HAVE to do a NVFR. You need to conduct your nav training in an 'advanced' aircraft, so CSU/retract ticks this box. However, any training done before the CPL test will be GST free.
You have to complete the flying school's training syllabus. This will list the minimum navs, including one (off memory - check CAOs for confirmation) of a solo flight of at least 300nm duration.
Check the CPL test form for minimum hours. You need 10 hours IF from memory (it's been a while since I did the test).
Go somewhere that will challenge you. Have you considered flying to the sort of place you'd like to eventually work? I.e. NT or North QLD? Meet some contacts and drop a resume off.
Complete the CPL in a single. However, have you considered doing the ME rating before completing the CPL test? This will attract GST free training. Anything done after CPL will attract GST.
See above. Maybe you should think about doing some time in the type of aircraft you'd be flying in your first job. Do some research, maybe some 182 or 210 time will be beneficial. Not sure if considerable Jabiru time will be looked on favourably.
I could only do it part-time, which took a long time but it's worth it in the end.
Bob Tait worked for me. Self-study as much as possible, maybe book a senior instructor for an afternoon if you have questions at the end.
As I said, just my thoughts. There are Ppruners with more knowledge than me.
1. Complete an 'intergrated' CPL course, consisting of 150 hours, 70 of which must be command time. Since I've got about 50 dual and 20 hours command in the book, I figure that I need another 50 hours of command and therefore another 30 hours of dual at LEAST.
2. Within this 50 hourss of command, and 30 hours of dual, I need to complete NFVR rating and CSU/Retract endo.
1. What other requirments are there to actually sit the CPL test? Aside from the theory? Do I need to do a certain number of Navs/exercies or just meet the minimum hours?
Check the CPL test form for minimum hours. You need 10 hours IF from memory (it's been a while since I did the test).
2. Whats the best way to spend the 50 command hours I've got to get up? Aside from flying some mates around the countryside.
3. I'm told thats its best to complete the CPL in a single and then worry about ME rating afterward. This could make the test a little easier I suppose.
4. How do I keep these costs to a minimum? I've been flying out of YMMB at a school that has a good reputation, but the costs arn't what I'd call easy to burden. Maybe I should build those 50 hours in a Jabiru?
5. How best do I complete it? I work full time, but can take 4-6 weeks off to complete flights and theory full time if I thought that would work.
6. Advice on self study/complete a theory course?
As I said, just my thoughts. There are Ppruners with more knowledge than me.
Be careful about getting into this 150 hour CPL course. If you already have a private licence, there's a decent chance that you have done some flying privately already.
The 150 hour course is based on the idea that every single one of those 150 hours is put to practical use... you may not be eligible for it if you've done significant private flying.
The 150 hour course is based on the idea that every single one of those 150 hours is put to practical use... you may not be eligible for it if you've done significant private flying.
Great! Thats the biggest hurdle!
Now take full advantage of those GST-free hours, and train, train, train! NVFR would be useful, an Instrument Rating more so. Especially in a twin. Or floats, or anything you find interesting.
Now take full advantage of those GST-free hours, and train, train, train! NVFR would be useful, an Instrument Rating more so. Especially in a twin. Or floats, or anything you find interesting.
As FTS mentioned, doing some of your extra endorsments within your CPL course will save you $$$ as it doesnt attract GST.
Consider the possibility of doing your MECIR during your CPL training, as it will count for your 10 hours of IF, so your killing two birds with the one stone really.
If you can afford to take the time off, I'd suggest getting all your theory out of the way in one fowl swoop, then concentrate on your flying. Whether you do this in a classroom or just knuckle down and self study the lot.
Having done your CPL subjects before you do your commercial flying will help you considerably, plus will actually put some of those things to good use before you head out in to the real world.
Consider the possibility of doing your MECIR during your CPL training, as it will count for your 10 hours of IF, so your killing two birds with the one stone really.
If you can afford to take the time off, I'd suggest getting all your theory out of the way in one fowl swoop, then concentrate on your flying. Whether you do this in a classroom or just knuckle down and self study the lot.
Having done your CPL subjects before you do your commercial flying will help you considerably, plus will actually put some of those things to good use before you head out in to the real world.
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If you already have 80hrs total that means you only need 120hrs for your CPL doing it under the modular system. That would include your actual CPL training and flight test. You can probably get much more experience and quality hours flying privately on a few trips away than you ever will starting from scratch on the 150hr course.
I would get a second opinion on your eligibility for the 150hr course and tax deduction also. Remember the 150hr syllabus is a start from scratch, not an upgrade from PPL to CPL.
I would get a second opinion on your eligibility for the 150hr course and tax deduction also. Remember the 150hr syllabus is a start from scratch, not an upgrade from PPL to CPL.
