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Old 5th Feb 2008, 00:37
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Surveillance Australia - Pay/Bonuses !!!

Can anyone confirm this, heard it yesterday.

Pay and retention bonuses for SAPL Pilots !

C&T

Base salary - $100,000 increasing 2% per year(to 10 years) plus CPI.
Supervisory Captains 10%, C&T 25%
Retention Bonus - $100,000 per year for next 3 years.

Line Captains

Base salary as above.
Retention bonus - $50,000 for year 1 & 2, $100,000 if you stay for year 3.

FO

Base salary - $60,000 with increase as per captains
Retention bonus - $30,000 for year 1 & 2, $60,000 if you stay for year 3.

Fly in Fly Out available for all Captains and BME FO however later required to FIFO from PER. Don't know exact terms of FIFO but I think it costs you half your bonus to fund it. If you live in BME, DRW, CNS then you get the lot.

$150,000 for a line Dash Skipper,that would be worth a look!

Don't think you need to be Rated/Endorsed on Dash but it would help.
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Could be. This is copied from their website http://www.bfound.net/detail.aspx?jo...&CoId=267&rq=1

The Company offers an excellent remuneration package with base salary commencing at $100,000 for Captains and $60,000 for First Officers, remote area Location Allowances and an Annual Performance Bonus which is linked to Company contract performance.


Essential Selection Criteria
Be at least 18 years old.
Be an Australian, UK, Canadian, New Zealand or South African citizen.
Capable of obtaining an Australian ATPL.
2 000 hours total flying experience.
1 000 hours fixed wing command.
100 hours night flying experience, of which at least 90 hours pilot in command.
100 hours fixed wing turbine experience
A multi-engine command instrument rating with a minimum of 5 renewals.
Be physically fit.
Hold a Class 1 Aviation Medical Certificate.
Be eligible for both an Aviation Security Identity Card (ASIC) and an Australian Customs Security Clearance. An extensive security package will be issued after a successful interview and must be completed at least four weeks before course commencement.

Desirable Selection Criteria
DHC-8 or similar endorsement.
Computer literacy.
Experience relevant to Surveillance Operations.
Search and Rescue experience.
500 hours pilot in command of large turbo prop supported by simulator training
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Well, Well, Well.

If those numbers are correct, then the penny has finally dropped. With coastwatch at least.

I'll be putting my resume' in. Unless of course my current employer would like to match?
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You do that Krusty. See if your GM cares!

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Old 5th Feb 2008, 02:37
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Smile Its all true.

This reflects the market for experienced turborop guys who don't have jets in their eyes.

Its not before time but still, its a lot of dough.

Sim C&Ter = 25% increment as well = 100 + 25 + 100 (bonus) = 225K for the next 3 years!

The guys who have been there some years must be pushing 250K!
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You're right there Lodown. probably glad to be rid of me.

Shouldn't that pic be on the other thread? Great scene though. An absolute crack up.

When told of the Chairman's remark, I did offer my chainsaw!
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Yep thats what there paying. They hve just managed to entice three captains that left for Air Nuigini about a year ago back into the fold.
And not one of them would be on less than $170,000.00 a year. So six months after I leave them they are now paying their captains more than the Jet mob I moved off too. Bloody typical!!!. Oh well I guess i could return the GM's calls, It's starting to get interesting!!.
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Lodown... Just wanted to let you know... that was freaking hilarious.... loved it.

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Is there a lesson for REX in here somewhere ? Looks like some people are quite happy on turboprops if the pay and conditions are good enough HELLO
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Good money indeed. Look at the end of the day what's the attraction to jets???............nothing at all really. It's just that the jet job pays more, well maybe 'till we read the above. If SA are paying such amounts then it makes no difference at all what type you fly as long as it's modern & safe. The older you get in this business (flying) you tend to look more towards quality of life, lifestyle etc. The airlines aren't given the guys/gals much of that these days. There is life after flying but why wait 'till you retire, enjoy life now & let the silly notion of jet flying go for a better lifestyle. Young ones here pay no mind to what I'm saying, you have to experience the lack luster of it for yourselves!.
No honour/glamour in flying a jet these days, all button pushing & trying to stay awake on the long haul stuff!

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Is there a lesson for REX in here somewhere ?
Probably a bigger lesson for Qantas Link, especially considering they can provide ready made Dash-8 drivers...
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Well said Capt Wally

But its the Low remuneration that the company you and I work for that makes people want to look outside.

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Very true H.H.

Does anyone know just how many Dash drivers SA are requireing?

If it's only a half dozen or so, then the brail readers that run the big regionals will probably ignore this most significant event.

However the operators with the guys and girls who fit the bill, can longer hide behind...."No matter what we pay, they will all still leave to fly a jet".

The first large regional who steps up to plate and matches SA's initiative will capture and hold this most critical end of the pilot market. At the same time their opposition will be decimated!

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He who hesitates is lost.
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If Rex paid that sort of money I'd be back from overseas in a flash - and I don't think I'd be alone.
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Can anyone confirm this, heard it yesterday.

Pay and retention bonuses for SAPL Pilots !

C&T

Base salary - $100,000 increasing 2% per year(to 10 years) plus CPI.
Supervisory Captains 10%, C&T 25%
Retention Bonus - $100,000 per year for next 3 years.

Line Captains

Base salary as above.
Retention bonus - $50,000 for year 1 & 2, $100,000 if you stay for year 3.

FO

Base salary - $60,000 with increase as per captains
Retention bonus - $30,000 for year 1 & 2, $60,000 if you stay for year 3.

Fly in Fly Out available for all Captains and BME FO however later required to FIFO from PER. Don't know exact terms of FIFO but I think it costs you half your bonus to fund it. If you live in BME, DRW, CNS then you get the lot.

$150,000 for a line Dash Skipper,that would be worth a look!

Don't think you need to be Rated/Endorsed on Dash but it would help.
Base salaries are correct, endorsements not required for FOs, don't know about your figures for the retention bonus. As far as I know the details for FIFO and bonuses haven't been released yet, and those figures sound a bit TOO good to be true .
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I have it from the horses mouth (the GM) that it is all true.

FIFO has not been finalised but will be something like 10 ON/10 OFF.

SAPL have a 12 year 1 Billion dollar contract that needs pilots - they are very serios.

The question is - is this enough incentive ($ and FIFO) to pull enough Rex and Q' link boys in (they need about 15 more skippers apparently).

Will Rex and Q'link match them?
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Old 6th Feb 2008, 00:31
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Fifo is not all what its cracked up to be very bad if your coupled with somone.
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Tnxs 'dog'............that's how I see it. I guess it's like some guys towards women............it's all in the 'chase'................once yr there............what now !

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It would seem to me to be a good idea to "uncouple" before attempting either "fi" or "fo"!

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If this is true then QLink is as Eddie would say - "Boned"

That money is spot on what should be paid!
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