MECIR for RAAFie seeking ATPL
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MECIR for RAAFie seeking ATPL
Can anybody tell me (spoon feed me) the best options for obtaining a MECIR for a RAAF pilot seeking an ATPL.
I am reading on this site about people budgeting for 10-15K, but I know of RAAFies that have done it for less than $500. Do I really need to shell out thousands when I have spent most of the last decade as a ME captain flying international ops?
I am not interestd in IREX gouge, I know what is involved there, just want to know about the practical aspect.
I am reading on this site about people budgeting for 10-15K, but I know of RAAFies that have done it for less than $500. Do I really need to shell out thousands when I have spent most of the last decade as a ME captain flying international ops?
I am not interestd in IREX gouge, I know what is involved there, just want to know about the practical aspect.
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Mate, Price doesn't necessarily mean quality and after all this rating is all about stopping you from killing yourself and/or your pax.
$500? That would get you about 1.5 (generous) hours in a training twin. You won't get a rating for that. I did mine with Ad Astral in Perth (Ron McGrath, AKA McGilla) ex CO Pt.Cook. He knows his stuff (understatement), trains to a standard not a price and will not rip you off. The SIM is good and a cost saver and from memorythe aircraft were in good nick. More on the point of him not ripping you off. The last renewal I did with him was .4 in the aircraft the rest in the sim. Shop around but I think he would be hard to beat on cost AND quality.
Sorry, just re-read your post and notice the bit about multi international etc. All the more reason to give Mc Gilla a call and discuss it with him. He would know what you need to do.
$500? That would get you about 1.5 (generous) hours in a training twin. You won't get a rating for that. I did mine with Ad Astral in Perth (Ron McGrath, AKA McGilla) ex CO Pt.Cook. He knows his stuff (understatement), trains to a standard not a price and will not rip you off. The SIM is good and a cost saver and from memorythe aircraft were in good nick. More on the point of him not ripping you off. The last renewal I did with him was .4 in the aircraft the rest in the sim. Shop around but I think he would be hard to beat on cost AND quality.
Sorry, just re-read your post and notice the bit about multi international etc. All the more reason to give Mc Gilla a call and discuss it with him. He would know what you need to do.
oldm8 - I am no expert on this, but .....
I would have thought you should meet all the requirements for the issue of a MECIR, so all you need is to be recommended for a test - and then do the test.
If it were me, I'd find somewhere with a Baron cause I reckon that's the easiest machine to fly MECIR rides in, bit more expensive than the usual training hacks, but worth it.
Go for a lap with a senior instructor through the requirements for the MECIR test - if you can hack it - do the test!
Personally I think if you know what you are doing, the sort of stimulator you will find in typical training establishments are a waste of time and money - go fly the aeroplane.
How much it costs will depend on how quickly you can transition to a GA aeroplane in the IFR environment.
A copy of the flight test form (initial issue) will tell you what's involved.
Good luck!
Dr
I would have thought you should meet all the requirements for the issue of a MECIR, so all you need is to be recommended for a test - and then do the test.
If it were me, I'd find somewhere with a Baron cause I reckon that's the easiest machine to fly MECIR rides in, bit more expensive than the usual training hacks, but worth it.
Go for a lap with a senior instructor through the requirements for the MECIR test - if you can hack it - do the test!
Personally I think if you know what you are doing, the sort of stimulator you will find in typical training establishments are a waste of time and money - go fly the aeroplane.
How much it costs will depend on how quickly you can transition to a GA aeroplane in the IFR environment.
A copy of the flight test form (initial issue) will tell you what's involved.
Good luck!
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And yes, one would think with multiple ME IRT's, we wouldn't have to jump through the hoops!
EDIT: Hang on.......Is this a CASA official trying to get info on dodgey testing officers??????
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And yes, one would think with multiple ME IRT's, we wouldn't have to jump through the hoops!
EDIT: Hang on.......Is this a CASA official trying to get info on dodgey testing officers??????
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refer to CASA recognition of ADF qualifications.
you just need Irex and a flight test . however in order to do a flight test you need an endorsment on type. you will probably need to learn fixed card ADF and the different type of VOR instrument that are common in GA twins.
the test and irex will include CAO's and civil regs.
Remember you are getting the endorsement to fly a light twin in Oz. They are a real handful single engine.
Plenty have gone before you (ADF) and nobody is really interested in why you should not have to do the test.
So best just get on with it and learn what you can.
I would recommend AD Astral in Perth as a very professional outfit.
you just need Irex and a flight test . however in order to do a flight test you need an endorsment on type. you will probably need to learn fixed card ADF and the different type of VOR instrument that are common in GA twins.
the test and irex will include CAO's and civil regs.
Remember you are getting the endorsement to fly a light twin in Oz. They are a real handful single engine.
Plenty have gone before you (ADF) and nobody is really interested in why you should not have to do the test.
So best just get on with it and learn what you can.
I would recommend AD Astral in Perth as a very professional outfit.
I did mine with Bob Harris in Innisfail, in his Duchess - he's good, has a lot of knowledge and experience.
Hadn't flown any kind of light twin before, so did the endorsement as well.
All true words spoken above, especially about the lack of performance on 1 engine - don't expect to fly the missed approach gradients, so plans B and C must be ready to come into play as required!
Hadn't flown any kind of light twin before, so did the endorsement as well.
All true words spoken above, especially about the lack of performance on 1 engine - don't expect to fly the missed approach gradients, so plans B and C must be ready to come into play as required!
