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Out of interest, how long did it take to get the psych testing invitation after submitting an application (a competitive application at that)?
I get the impression things don't move quickly at recruitment.
I get the impression things don't move quickly at recruitment.
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QLink Employment - worth it?
Realise this has been done so many times before me..............................
Just got the STAGE 2 progression email (psycho testing)
) and am wondering if its worth working for QLink?
I read all bad reports from only a year ago, but nothing much new about employee conditions - the other threads have gone off on separate rants!
Anyone in there recently - initial opinions?
Long term options?
How much is Endorsement these days?
Where are you based and how do you find the rosters?
Any help appreciated, and like I said - know this has been asked soooo many times before...
Just got the STAGE 2 progression email (psycho testing)
) and am wondering if its worth working for QLink?I read all bad reports from only a year ago, but nothing much new about employee conditions - the other threads have gone off on separate rants!
Anyone in there recently - initial opinions?
Long term options?
How much is Endorsement these days?
Where are you based and how do you find the rosters?
Any help appreciated, and like I said - know this has been asked soooo many times before...
Depends on whether you're looking for a quick command (provided you have the Quals').
Heard that Qlink had to cancel a 6 sector day recently because of a shortage of Captains. Nothing new, and definitely on the increase for 2010. Like their opposition, the 'link have failed completely in it's efforts to retain it's experience base. The "At Company Discretion" incentive bonus to Captains was as ill-concieved as it was cynical. Word has it that as soon as it was/is paid out, the exodus will be on for young and old, well maybe not for the really young.
Point is, if you're a candidate with "real" experience, it may just be the job for you. If you're one of the captive audience of long term right seaters, then make sure you have the food stamps ready!
Heard that Qlink had to cancel a 6 sector day recently because of a shortage of Captains. Nothing new, and definitely on the increase for 2010. Like their opposition, the 'link have failed completely in it's efforts to retain it's experience base. The "At Company Discretion" incentive bonus to Captains was as ill-concieved as it was cynical. Word has it that as soon as it was/is paid out, the exodus will be on for young and old, well maybe not for the really young.
Point is, if you're a candidate with "real" experience, it may just be the job for you. If you're one of the captive audience of long term right seaters, then make sure you have the food stamps ready!
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Krusty:
Issue I am having is being a flight instructor, I really only see SE command, so my MECom is lacking - probably around the 200hr mark...
I have ME ICUS (270hr) and Co-Pilot from RPT ops in a very very small regional from years ago obviously with 2 Pilot Ops...
Hold my ATPL with around 2300TT, but thinking that's not gonna help me at all with so many guys having their 500 MECom Minimums, and wondering what the progression would be like for me?
Feels like (from previous posts/threads) I would be shafted for upgrades even more than some cadets with lower TTimes..!!??!!
Anyway, guess I just wanna know if the cost of getting in/rostering and Pay scale (with a loan to pay that damn endorsement) is worth the time and effort, or going out and getting that magic 500 MECom is the better way to go?
I know people have many different opinions on this, but hearing it from someone who recently got in - with my dilemmas - how they feel they are going?
Any help appreciated!
Issue I am having is being a flight instructor, I really only see SE command, so my MECom is lacking - probably around the 200hr mark...
I have ME ICUS (270hr) and Co-Pilot from RPT ops in a very very small regional from years ago obviously with 2 Pilot Ops...
Hold my ATPL with around 2300TT, but thinking that's not gonna help me at all with so many guys having their 500 MECom Minimums, and wondering what the progression would be like for me?
Feels like (from previous posts/threads) I would be shafted for upgrades even more than some cadets with lower TTimes..!!??!!
Anyway, guess I just wanna know if the cost of getting in/rostering and Pay scale (with a loan to pay that damn endorsement) is worth the time and effort, or going out and getting that magic 500 MECom is the better way to go?
I know people have many different opinions on this, but hearing it from someone who recently got in - with my dilemmas - how they feel they are going?
Any help appreciated!
Hey Sceva,
Its my understanding, that because Qlink hold a high capacity AOC, as long you hold an ATPL you will be eligible for a command. I know one guy in there at the moment (who was a DE guy in the last boom) who is getting bypassed for a command due to not having his night hours.
Its my understanding, that because Qlink hold a high capacity AOC, as long you hold an ATPL you will be eligible for a command. I know one guy in there at the moment (who was a DE guy in the last boom) who is getting bypassed for a command due to not having his night hours.
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Fonz,
Yeah I've got PLENTY of NGT Com, comes with the instructing i guess...
The 300's are on the Low cap AOC though, yes.....? So I take that if I want command, I will get it on the Q400's until I get 500 multi command, then they can put me on a 300... Seems a bit silly for company to hire me over someone with 500 MECom in that case - for future upgrades and pilot retainment..?
Thoughts?
Yeah I've got PLENTY of NGT Com, comes with the instructing i guess...
The 300's are on the Low cap AOC though, yes.....? So I take that if I want command, I will get it on the Q400's until I get 500 multi command, then they can put me on a 300... Seems a bit silly for company to hire me over someone with 500 MECom in that case - for future upgrades and pilot retainment..?
Thoughts?
Someone will have to verify this but I'm pretty sure the 300 is high capacity and the 200 may just slot into the low capacity category. I wouldn't worry about it too much until you had a job lined up.
If you have an ATPL then all you need for command is 2000hrs Aeronautical exp, 700hrs aeronautical on type, and 1 year in the company. No multi time even mentioned. And all the above can be dropped at the discretion of the company.
But do not expect to join and 1 year later be a Captain, there are plenty folks at the Link with the reqs. to be Capt that have yet to get the tap on the shoulder.
As for the cost, I thought they still ran it as a 3 year bond?
But do not expect to join and 1 year later be a Captain, there are plenty folks at the Link with the reqs. to be Capt that have yet to get the tap on the shoulder.
As for the cost, I thought they still ran it as a 3 year bond?
A command has recently been awarded to someone in a similar situation Sceva, doesn't have the 500multi, but has an ATPL.
Commands usually start on the sustaining fleet (-200/300).
I thought all types were on the one AOC (High Capacity), so like rmcdonal said, once you have an ATPL, the rest can be waived as required.
Commands usually start on the sustaining fleet (-200/300).
I thought all types were on the one AOC (High Capacity), so like rmcdonal said, once you have an ATPL, the rest can be waived as required.
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High capacity across the board
Guys
Q'link operates on a high capacity AOC. That's it. There's no other consideration. Even though the 200 is 36 seats it is operating on the same AOC as the 300 and 400 so it is still part of the high capacity AOC.
Thus there is no requirement for 500 MEC. I can tell you this cos I'm one of the guys who has gone in there with less than 500 MEC (but plenty of co-pilot time in other jobs) and I have a command on the 200/300. I did not have to build my MEC up to 500 hours before they awarded me the command.
Personally I like it there. The first thing you have to remember is that it is a company that requires bums on seats and good quality professional crew to make it a viable operation. If you're going to go in and whinge from day one, I'm not interested in having you around. Be part of the solution. That's more of a general comment to anyone, not focused on you Sceva.
But that doesn't mean that you let the company screw you over at every opportunity either, and there are times when they try this. It's how you handle these moments that really determines your enjoyment levels. You can go off and get grumpy and disenchanted or you can get involved and try to do something about it. Personally I often remind myself that each of us contributes in some way to the team's level of engagement. Nothing frustrates me more than people who walk in there and rant in ways that are nothing more than selfish or non-constructive. I suppose you could say it's a bit of CRM on a bigger scale...
From the little I can see of your situation I would suggest it's probably a good move. There's plenty happening there at the moment and really, I doubt you will have to wait around for long until you get a command. With your instructing experience you will probably find training roles open up to you one day as well, which are both challenging and rewarding far beyond what you would have experienced now as an instructor.
The disenchantment that you have seen in previous posts is real though. There are challenges in being there, but I think too that the opportunities that it affords you down the track really are very good.
Hope that helps.
Q'link operates on a high capacity AOC. That's it. There's no other consideration. Even though the 200 is 36 seats it is operating on the same AOC as the 300 and 400 so it is still part of the high capacity AOC.
Thus there is no requirement for 500 MEC. I can tell you this cos I'm one of the guys who has gone in there with less than 500 MEC (but plenty of co-pilot time in other jobs) and I have a command on the 200/300. I did not have to build my MEC up to 500 hours before they awarded me the command.
Personally I like it there. The first thing you have to remember is that it is a company that requires bums on seats and good quality professional crew to make it a viable operation. If you're going to go in and whinge from day one, I'm not interested in having you around. Be part of the solution. That's more of a general comment to anyone, not focused on you Sceva.
But that doesn't mean that you let the company screw you over at every opportunity either, and there are times when they try this. It's how you handle these moments that really determines your enjoyment levels. You can go off and get grumpy and disenchanted or you can get involved and try to do something about it. Personally I often remind myself that each of us contributes in some way to the team's level of engagement. Nothing frustrates me more than people who walk in there and rant in ways that are nothing more than selfish or non-constructive. I suppose you could say it's a bit of CRM on a bigger scale...
From the little I can see of your situation I would suggest it's probably a good move. There's plenty happening there at the moment and really, I doubt you will have to wait around for long until you get a command. With your instructing experience you will probably find training roles open up to you one day as well, which are both challenging and rewarding far beyond what you would have experienced now as an instructor.
The disenchantment that you have seen in previous posts is real though. There are challenges in being there, but I think too that the opportunities that it affords you down the track really are very good.
Hope that helps.
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Gen:
Thanks heaps for that info - huge weight off my shoulders in respect to the requirements! Interesting they run the 200's on the High Cap AOC..!
Looking forward to the application processes even more now!
Heard there are challenges but hey, I have 'interesting' challenges everyday and realised a long time ago that's part of the job; figure every company has it's issues!
Thanks again to all for the help and info! Much appreciated!
Thanks heaps for that info - huge weight off my shoulders in respect to the requirements! Interesting they run the 200's on the High Cap AOC..!
Looking forward to the application processes even more now!
Heard there are challenges but hey, I have 'interesting' challenges everyday and realised a long time ago that's part of the job; figure every company has it's issues!
Thanks again to all for the help and info! Much appreciated!
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Why is it interesting the 200's are on a HC AOC? It's the same AOC! Why would you have two different AOC's for the one company, especially when it's only running the one type of aircraft?
Crazy talk.
Crazy talk.
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Hi all,
Just got the call up for the qantaslink psych testing. Can anyone shed some light on the best places apart from psych success to get some information to read. Also any hints, tips and also the difficulty level of the test.
Kind Regards
red777
Just got the call up for the qantaslink psych testing. Can anyone shed some light on the best places apart from psych success to get some information to read. Also any hints, tips and also the difficulty level of the test.
Kind Regards
red777
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Food for thought
Something for prospective employees to think about:
Do not join the company with the attitude that you will get a command shortly thereafter. This attitude is pervading the company now and it's no fun to work with.
There are plenty of things that could affect progression, need a crystal ball to see all of them. For example if the icus program gets up, those joining the company now with the experience for command will be waiting a long time while bypassed trainees/cadets gain min requirements and move to the left seat.
Do not join the company with the attitude that you will get a command shortly thereafter. This attitude is pervading the company now and it's no fun to work with.
There are plenty of things that could affect progression, need a crystal ball to see all of them. For example if the icus program gets up, those joining the company now with the experience for command will be waiting a long time while bypassed trainees/cadets gain min requirements and move to the left seat.
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Hey guys, got stage 3 interview and sim next month and just wondering if anyone can give me a few hints or tips. I've read this whole thread and there are some great comments from guys who've already answered this question but wondering if there's anything they might have missed. Thanks.
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I hear they are running sim/interview sessions every week until June at this stage! Even if they only take 50% of those interviewed that is going to put some pressure on their training department. I guess it will also start to effect the smaller operators, should be interested to see if a flood of jobs start appearing on AFAP.
Best of luck.
Best of luck.
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Trainee Program
Does anyone know if Qlink is likely to continue/restart their Pilot Trainee Program. For those who dont know what it is...
""Trainee program for pilots who have completed their Commercial Pilot Licence, but do not meet the QantasLink Direct Entry minimum experience criteria.""
I'm willing to take the 'Do your time in GA before you get a seat up front in a turboprop' abuse as long as it comes with some info. Infact, I'd be the first person celebrating if GA picks up enough to allow a 500 hr fella like myself to get something decent/get something at all..
In the meantime, Any info of the Trainee Program and if its likely to be restarted is appreciated. WhiteandFluffy - from your lips to god's ears... hopefully lots of GA jobs on AFAP in the near future!
""Trainee program for pilots who have completed their Commercial Pilot Licence, but do not meet the QantasLink Direct Entry minimum experience criteria.""
I'm willing to take the 'Do your time in GA before you get a seat up front in a turboprop' abuse as long as it comes with some info. Infact, I'd be the first person celebrating if GA picks up enough to allow a 500 hr fella like myself to get something decent/get something at all..
In the meantime, Any info of the Trainee Program and if its likely to be restarted is appreciated. WhiteandFluffy - from your lips to god's ears... hopefully lots of GA jobs on AFAP in the near future!