RACWA

[YPJT]

FRQ CB,

Gold mate - Pure Gold!

Just a couple of questions though. Is the NVFR time limit reduced when an alternate is required due to rwy lighting requirements.
What about MECIR pilot required to hold due to traffic in a CTR. Is the time limit on the MR signature automatically extended?

I am just wondering if Over and Gout's post was a windup? If it was, well done

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

Nah bugger 'em. Part of the pre-flight prep should have included:

For the NVFR pilot packing a spare set of backup runway flares (God knows I never leave home without them) to lay down some new lighting so that they can land, resign the MR, manually activate the LIRL (to take off and then make a proper landing).


or in the case of the ATPL:

packing a spare LAME to co-sign the MR on just such an occasion (this can be done whilst airborne but not in conjunction with any inflight refueling... unless it's JP5 and not AVTUR, that's kosher).

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. (I personally believe that every one of RACWA's C152s should have a LAME in the baggage area just in case.)

[YPJT]

Who's up for a "right hand seat endorsement" ?

[Aerlik]

Do not, repeat not, that is NOT, be sucked in by their insistence that to get a CPL you will have to do low-level and tailwheel endorsements. Absolute tosh. Tell them (if they throw that one at you) that that is not a requirement for a CPL and that you would prefer to use the hours on a C210 or even a light twin to get that experience. I'm sure there'll be other tails of woe from the "Royal Scare-oh club".

[Lasiorhinus]

They dont offer "210 endorsements", too, do they?

[Towering Q]

The tail-wheel endorsement sure comes in handy when making the trek north to pursue that first job, (and time in the tiger is cream on the cake.)

[Blackyak]

so where else can I train ?

Started at RACWA. Instructors where young, late and totally dis-interested. They regularly cancelled my lesson on the day and changed instructors without notice.

Now that WB has gone, so have I and many others.

TAP - same story, just short of staff.

Min ???

Anyone else out there I should give a go ?? Maybe Florida - now that sounds like a good spend of my hard earned $$

[Towering Q]

Instructors where young, late and totally dis-interested.

Maybe you should have had a chat with the CFI.

[Blackyak]

Yeah, should have. But one flight was with the then GM, who didn't show up for one test flight !!!!

CFI was away flying float planes and the receptionist(s) didn't really know who was around.

Gave up and not been back since.

[Lasiorhinus]

Why wait until you're at CPL level to get a decent, experienced instructor? Get a good instructor early on, and reap the benefits of good training from ab-initio! As a student, you shouldn't be accepting a low standard of instructing because "the instructors are there to build hours".

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

I'm not leaving my wingman

My self and 3 of my housemates are training at the club and it's nothing like you described it.Yeh most instructors are young and leave within 6months or so but they are there to build hours and work.Once you get to the cpl stage you'll have a choice of some pretty decent and expirienced cats and that's where you make sure you grab a hold of one.Good place for training but rates are a bit high.

(sic)

FP ACE, As Lasiorhinus will no doubt agree Ab Initio is where the training really counts. Poor CPL training (getting your ETA to within + or - 2 minutes) isn't going to kill you and your passengers; stalling whilst over-rotating will (Flying lesson 3 I think). There's something terribly wrong when the teachers are last year's/month's graduates (mentors yes, teachers no).

Don't expect a reply; I'm sure that FP Ace (Figher Pilot Ace methinks) is probably too busy sitting up on the RACWA roof trying to intercept the odd VHF transmission from Pearce or standing in front of the tele at Western Airmotive watching Top Gun... hoping that maybe this time Goose will make it (sorry to spoil the plot guys).


Yeah, RACWA is pretty useless except as a great place to:
1 - crosshire something
2 - act as a black hole to suck all the weekend warriors to the western end of the field.

FRQ CB

OK FP Ace, sorry that was a bit rude. Truth be known I'm pretty sure that I saw Air America (the whole thing) in WAM.

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

Dunno about going overseas. I felt good about the training I got at TAC (yes, they failed me on my PPL, tough/expensive lesson but probably saved me from making some deadly flying decisions). Also heard good things about others. I was pretty excited to hear last year that Fighter Combat International was doing up to PPL training. I think that it'd be a fair bit more expensive but Jeremy seems to know what he's doing (and you do the whole thing in a fully aerobatic tailwheel i.e. the Super Decathlon).

What about Minovation or if you really need a flash looking school Air Australia?

Things change over time and I know that it's a bit tough at all the GAAPs at the moment. All it takes is for one or two instructors to leave a company and the scheduling is all shot with the students suffering.


FRQ CB

[YPJT]

At Minovation the difference is that the CPL course is a modular course and designed to prepare people for the realities of GA rather than using Boeings on the marketing, giving people unrealistic expectations and making people wear silly uniforms.

All instructors are career Grade Ones and most have been there for years, you won't get stuffed around by a fugly Grade Three moving on.

You have to book well in advance for lessons though, and not everyone is accepted onto the CPL course, but if you want quality and be headhunted by GA employers it's worth the wait.

[Blackyak]

Agreed with Min. Only poblem is the reliability of her mounts. The boomerang although new is apt in its name. Seems to spend just too much of its life with the cowls off and engineers hanging inside searching for the bugs.

JFC - now there a typical example of a GA school going pearshaped. do they actually fly these days ??? Seem to be a lot of folk wandering arouond in JFC epaulettes and a lot of dead aircraft.

[Charlie Foxtrot India]

60+ hours a month and time in the hangar for routine maintenance and some mods on the Boomerang doesn't make it "unreliable" in my view, but whatever...!
Never let the facts get in the way of a good rumour!

[Blackyak]

Mr (or should I say Miss) CFI. There is a lot more going on than routine maintenance. Lets be honest now !

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Rather a lot of opinion and expertise for an ab initio pilot???

Perhaps you should skip PPL and CPL and go straight to ATPL??



Tail Wheel

[YPJT]

Blackyack,
Take another look at CFI's post.

routine maintenance and some mods

If you are going to quote - quote fully and accurately

[Awol57]

I think the best thing you could do is go into each school, have a look around, speak to some people there, both staff and current students. You will probably get a good idea of each place that way, rather than relying on PPRUNE which no doubt would have people telling you how it was last year, or 2 years ago, or 5 or 10 etc etc.

Each school no doubt caters to a certain need, so go in and see which is the best fit for you.

[SamAustralia]

For the RACWA, they have the advance diploma, I got few questions

1- Who teach us through this course(theory part) and what level of experience do they have?

2- How many hours on average do you put after school?

3- Thanks a lot.



Thanks

[LJones]

hey people,
to the above post about RACWA having an advance diploma, i may be wrong but i dont think they have a set course. I am doing the WAAC advance diploma at the moment and we have walk-ins from RACWA ( walk-ins : people who come in for one subject not the whole course )

If you want a structured course i recommend the WAAC.

Some may not... some may, up to you.