MattBNE

as I understand it, they are calling all the flight crew applicants and there are around 1000 of them. salary seems to be AUD180k to about AUD200k including super. seems as if one of the targets is Aussies wanting to come back to Godzone.

Dragun

Straight from the horse's mouth this morning...

Captain Salary $180-$210K including 9% super ($163,800 - $191,100 base)

Senior FO $110-$130K including 9% super ($100,100 - $118,300 base)

Cruise FO 60% of the higher Senior FO figure i.e. 60% of $130K ($78,000) including 9% super ($70,980 base)

Employment to be on 'individual contracts' - not an EBA. I clarified and asked "So we'll be employed on AWA's?' He said "No, you'll be on individual contracts"...?!?

Add 'overnights + meals' to the above figures. I asked what this figure would be expected to be generally per year, he didnt know.

Basing is Sydney

Training to be conducted in Sydney in a new B777-300ER simulator.

First destination to be LA but still unconfirmed at this stage.

Seven aircraft to be in operation by 2010.

Asked about progression, couldn't tell me cos he said they didn't know at this stage.

...and the big one...they are still unsure whether or not they will be charging for endorsements at all, whether up front or salary sacrifice.

He asked whether or not I would still be interested in progressing with the application given the above information. I said that it would be dependent on the endorsement costs and if I had to pay them, then no. Told him that I thought $100,000 base (at the lower end) for a wide body international FO was a little ridiculous. He didn't seem surprised, but I get the feeling this phone call was more market research than anything.

Recruitment process to begin from mid-January onwards and would include a psychometric assessment, simulator assessment and an intervew. Start dates in mid to late May.

Aussie

Not exactly living the high life with that $$$

Good luck!

On Guard

So what is the call for? Did they offer you an interview?

I'm waiting for them to call back.

On Guard

Can someone confirm, are they calling everyone? Or calling potential interviewees?

1000 calls seems a lot to make.

MattBNE

calling everyone - yeah, it does seem a lot of calls - maybe selling the benefits of working for them as well though

mates rates

I think they are sifting through the online applicants to see who is really interested in going further.So that will get rid of a few hundred applications then they will decide who they want to interview. Maybe they recorded the telephone calls to play them back and check the attitude of the recipients?

Roger Copy Ta

Missed my second call today, they always call while I'm flying!

Waiting for email now.

I indicated I wasn't willing to pay for endo, hope all you blokes are doing the same. I'm also still below the min requirements... interesting.

Dragun

I doubt they recorded anything. They are legally obliged to inform you that the call will be recorded which they didn't do.

They just said they were calling to give me some facts and ask if, based on that information, whether I was still interested in progressing with the application. I said at this stage yes, so he said he would be calling me regarding the next stage soon and expect it to between mid January to mid February.

Friction Nut

To those who have recieved calls, What hours do you have and what type of flying are you involved in now?

I'd be interested to know the make up of the people getting called.

aero979

Got a call from V and VB on the same day, sounds like interviews will be around the same time... emb 170/190 or 777... sounds like same pay rates.... which one to choose?? any advice?

777Monkey

I got a call too yesterday, i am short on the multi time by 100 hours! We can only wait and see what happens and what they do!

Transition Layer

Those pay rates are a f*cking joke!!!

I thought there was a pilot shortage?

empacher48

I got the call about an hour ago from VA, I have about 1200TT with 55 Multi. So they really haven't been looking at the applications and calling the most suitable candidates, but calling everyone.

The nice girl didn't have much information on pay rates or conditions for Cruise FOs, and she told me that up front. But did say interviews late Jan 08.

Dragun

Not sure why she didn't give you any info on cruise FO pay, the guy who called me told me straight up it would be 60% of $130K including super.

TL is right, the more I think about those pay rates, especially for 'senior FO', the more it seems like a disgrace.

hongkongfooey

So have I got this straight?????? At the lower end a skipper will be on less than his 737 brethren No wonder they have so many applicants
Are people really this desperate to come home ?

gj18457

In short yes.They would have made the pay so low to deter VB guys from coming over.

BR715

I also received a call yesterday 4200tt 2400 M.E and 500 jet sounds like the general gist of the call was to see wat people think of the conditions and if i was still interested in my application advancing to the next stage (being short listed) She couldn't tell me training costs or the pay for a S/O as she said it was still to be finalised and initial interviews would be in jan/feb 08

Australia2

Call today,

Dont need to come home that badly, thats for sure.

They are just testing the water at this stage, I'm sure.

Pilot shortage, not in Oz I am gathering; or will it become like up here, with an experienced expat in the LHS (fresh from EK/CX etc) and guys "building hours" for bugger all pay making up the rest of the crew?

Stand up for yourselves, paying for the rating is CRAZY in this environment.

Oz2

bushy

There's a pilot shortage, and they expect pilots to apply for a job that does not have defined T&C's?