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VB - What dictates type given?

Old 10th Nov 2007, 21:04
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I have just come back from the E-JET course in singas. run by swiss aviation training. received all manuals on arrival in singas, ground school mainly by CBT requiring a few hours study each night. 5 days on 2 days off etc, but would recommend setting half a day on the 2 days off for review. sim program well set out with absolutely no tricks. from the program you can review the total sim session for the next day, including ports, sids, wx, failures, qrh etc. overall an enjoyable 6 weeks.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 21:49
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Thank you FOXMAN

May I hope that this does not get censored.

FOXMAN YOU ARE A BLOODY LEGEND!

Myself and a few other E-Jet starterts have been quietly crappying ourselves about the Embraer course. Seeing that a mate of mine is about to do a 737 crash course in a clapped out old Ansett sim, it is good to realise that I think we got the better deal.

How long was your Singa course? Anthing that we should read up on before we go?
Cheers!
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 23:39
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For the training Captains it was six weeks. For new starts i would say 7-8 weeks, not sure but could ask for you. As for pre-study, don't worry, this is a high tech bit of gear but the systems are mainly automatic, much better than the 737. As long as you are not on the piss every night, and put a few hours in each night, you wont have a problem. The SOPs are very well thought out and easy to understand and the QRH is without doubt the best I've used.
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 00:17
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Thanks for the info.
Vicki in the office told me on friday that the New Baby's are going to do more likely a nine week course!!!!!
That's a lot of chocolate if I go to Zurich!!!!
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 03:17
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Back to the original question for a second, I was told by a guy this morning who just got on the Embraer that anyone with <500 multi-CREW experience wouldn't be considered for the Embraer...something to do with the 'training regime'. Apparently was told this in the interview.

Can anyone shed some some light on this?
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 04:28
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Yeah I was told the same thing in my interview. They asked if I had 500 multi crew, I assumed for the EMB requirements.

Has anyone heard if a Melbourne base will be offered on the EMB and if so what time frame

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Old 12th Nov 2007, 06:15
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Yes,ML will be a base but when ?
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 07:06
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Hey guys/gals,

I just had my VB interview and it all went quite well I thought. It was indeed like others have posted so there were really no surprises and I left feeling quite happy. Just have to wait for that phone call now!

I have less that 500 multi crew....in fact NO multi crew experience so I assume I will be on the 737 if successful??

Will let you all know how I went in due course.

Cheers.
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 07:40
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Yes with no experience I dare say you will be on the 737. Sort of sounds odd to me that by virtue of the fact that someone has more experince they are put on an aircraft paying less money....
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 21:50
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I spoke to a guy last week (mid-way through B737 endorsement for VB) who's been flying B767's for umpteen years overseas. I'm also heavy-jet endorsed with multi-crew time as well. Therefore if lack of multi-crew time dictates that you go on the B737, I think we've just blown that theory out of the water.

Honestly, I think it's nothing more than HR looking at a pile of candidates for the month's interviews, and putting half in a box labelled "Boeing" and the other half in a box labelled "Embraer."
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 21:59
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Correct Bungle rat.
I just finished sniffing out some news from HR and depending on who reads your file controls wuch type you go on. No big deal really, at least we are all taking a step up.
Oops .... sorry Bungle I know hoe much you will miss the 330!!!!!!!

Relax. The 737 is just a big Chieftan

Get excited/enjoy your course!
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 22:17
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...Yeah, well it took an inordinate amount of energy to rewire my brain to speak French. Now I have to unwire it again - just when I was getting good at it!
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 22:42
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With regards to the emb course are they just doing them in Zurich and how much it costs ?, if so I assume you have to find your own way over there? and living expenses over there as well. Does anyone know if there is an ADL base planned for them?

Looks like an expensive 9 weeks

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Old 13th Nov 2007, 03:25
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Find your own way over, are you kidding, wouldn't somewhere closer to home be better, e.g. singas, unless slots booked in advance dictate numbers . I wonder how much this is all going to cost, throw in meals and accomodation. How will the cost compare to the guys and girls who do their endorsement in Aus when an Embraer sim arrives here, more senior do now but more out of pocket?
Just diverging for a moment, whilst doing some 737 research on previous threads found this under, "737 flaps for take off", 16th Oct 2006:
from Dookie on D "for my operation typically ;
737 700 Flaps 30
737 800 Flaps 40
These configurations will change depending on any performance requirements", then yesterday says, "I have less than 500 multi crew...in fact no multi crew..."
Good on you for your interview, hope you went well, but sorry I'm a little confused, please correct me if I'm wrong it has been a long day for me.
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 04:11
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Hi Spanwise Flow,

Yes I have no multi crew time however I used to work in "other" departments within an airline namely to do with Performance hence my post regarding flaps used for the B737.

Sorry for the confusion!
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 05:32
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No worries, let us know how you go, what type and where.
By the way Ech I have replaced the carpet I wore out.
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Old 13th Nov 2007, 06:48
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hmmmm my referees have been called today....I take it this is good news? Wont know till the fat lady sings!

Will join the ranks of those pacing the floors
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Old 14th Nov 2007, 02:01
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start date

Has anyone recieved any details regarding their EJet endorsements as yet ? Interested to see how the salary sacrifice works and who pays for what...

Ang
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Old 14th Nov 2007, 09:07
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Relax. The 737 is just a big Chieftan
Methinks you could be in for an unpleasant surprise...
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Old 14th Nov 2007, 09:15
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Seeing that a mate of mine is about to do a 737 crash course in a clapped out old Ansett sim,
Nothing wrong with the Ansett B737-300 simulator. In fact the fidelity is first class. When you do a heavy landing it feels just like the real aeroplane - that is a bone jarring hit and you know all about it. Having said that another operator using the Classic has it's heavy landing impact technically "smoothed out" (saves on maintenance costs) so you hardly know you are on the runway. Good for the ego but not realistic in any way.
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