Air Pacific - Bright & Rosy?
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yes it is bad
Pettycoat it is bad at Air Pac. Look at it this way the pilots are paid peanuts compared to world standards, but your air fares are expensive. The cost of living is high in Fiji, cars, fuel, and food are expensive. You pay for schooling and medical care and both are sub standard. The life style is lousy, you realise this once you leave. Campbell says he can't pay pilots anymore but he pays his Qantas boys twice as much. The rostering is crap even for the 747 boys, they only think its good because they have nothing to compare it with.
The contract pilots are also not well paid. If you add the days they work in a year they are on less than the locals. Remember they get no pension, holidays, medical insurace, loss of licence insurance etc. The only pilots that will work for that money are the ex Ansett boys who cant work overseas because mummy and the kids dont want to leave Aus. As long as Campbell can get these desparados to work for nothing the locals will not get a pay rise.
So come on guys and girls you are worth a lot more and you owe it to your families to provide them with a better life style. Times are good and there are a lot of jobs out there so make the most of it. Unless you enjoy being an Air Pacific slave. Dont wait for Air Pac to go bankrupt as the jobs might not be there.
The contract pilots are also not well paid. If you add the days they work in a year they are on less than the locals. Remember they get no pension, holidays, medical insurace, loss of licence insurance etc. The only pilots that will work for that money are the ex Ansett boys who cant work overseas because mummy and the kids dont want to leave Aus. As long as Campbell can get these desparados to work for nothing the locals will not get a pay rise.
So come on guys and girls you are worth a lot more and you owe it to your families to provide them with a better life style. Times are good and there are a lot of jobs out there so make the most of it. Unless you enjoy being an Air Pacific slave. Dont wait for Air Pac to go bankrupt as the jobs might not be there.
Whips oh yes, can I watch??? Maybe I can help?? Spurs maybe?? Perhaps a riding crop or two???
Life can be so boring with out a bit of stimulation - more whips and spurs I say.!!!
Life can be so boring with out a bit of stimulation - more whips and spurs I say.!!!
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Alpine ,
mate when you say the cost of living is expensive in FJ do you compare that to FJ(CPI 3-4%) or Dubai (10-12% CPI)What is your analysis based on?.Look at the real terms.Are you talking about the buying power ,or the dollar or the actual figure of take home pay?Do account for inflation.?I am one of those that has left the sunny shores and very happy O/S but that does not mean that AP and in particular Fiji is all bad.(left for personal reasons and differing expectations)"Paid peanuts compared to world standards"mate once again what world standards are you talking about?Life style expectancy,money,aviation upgrades,Superannuation or PF.The rostering is crap as compared to what VB,PB ,Jetstar,EK,QR..lets put facts down..do you fellas factor out 3 - 4 sectors per day with min rest? Lifestyle,how do you decide that in you comparison which has not been stated."Mummy and the kids don't want to O/S'.Mate they can(Ansett with their experience) go to Korean,Japan,India , all are commuting contracts that mght be of distance but AVERAGE out the same time at home approximately.Air Pac is not a long term stomping ground for a lot of folks.But for some it is.The management is fu##%^ed especially that CP.There are a lot f good blokes tht have left that HAVE FOLLOWED THE SHEEP so to speak.It doesn't make it wrong but as long as they have a HOME to go to when they have had enough of where they are.Some do a LOT do not.The industry will have a down turn one day... as long as the blokes are ready.
Wish all the blokes from AP the best of luck
Coco
mate when you say the cost of living is expensive in FJ do you compare that to FJ(CPI 3-4%) or Dubai (10-12% CPI)What is your analysis based on?.Look at the real terms.Are you talking about the buying power ,or the dollar or the actual figure of take home pay?Do account for inflation.?I am one of those that has left the sunny shores and very happy O/S but that does not mean that AP and in particular Fiji is all bad.(left for personal reasons and differing expectations)"Paid peanuts compared to world standards"mate once again what world standards are you talking about?Life style expectancy,money,aviation upgrades,Superannuation or PF.The rostering is crap as compared to what VB,PB ,Jetstar,EK,QR..lets put facts down..do you fellas factor out 3 - 4 sectors per day with min rest? Lifestyle,how do you decide that in you comparison which has not been stated."Mummy and the kids don't want to O/S'.Mate they can(Ansett with their experience) go to Korean,Japan,India , all are commuting contracts that mght be of distance but AVERAGE out the same time at home approximately.Air Pac is not a long term stomping ground for a lot of folks.But for some it is.The management is fu##%^ed especially that CP.There are a lot f good blokes tht have left that HAVE FOLLOWED THE SHEEP so to speak.It doesn't make it wrong but as long as they have a HOME to go to when they have had enough of where they are.Some do a LOT do not.The industry will have a down turn one day... as long as the blokes are ready.
Wish all the blokes from AP the best of luck
Coco
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1st lady
Never fear 1st lady, the farmer will never return.
After being well and truely shafted by those who could not stand the thought of him succeeding in Fiji when they have not ie. his 1000 cow dairy farm, I hear the farmer has left the backstabbing aviation environment and bought another dairy farm in NZ -his third.
Its a real shame for Fiji that he was screwed and his dairy farm project was scuttled. The financial loss to Fiji is in the millions, not to mention the flow on credits from knowledge transfer and skills training. Last year I spent a whole day with him - the climate was fantastic and the views breathtaking. We went all over the area checking water flows in streams, spray trials of weeds and guava trees, grass trials, soil moisture readings -it dawned on me why he took me after we got stuck! He had spent 3 yrs conducting research and grass trials - including importing 3 new species of grass. I am not a farmer but to see his trial plots was amazing. Thirty plus plots of various species at different stages of growth, recording the effects of irrigation, different types of fertiliser, and various cutting options. I have never seen someone so dedicated to his hobby as he called it.
Good luck to him
After being well and truely shafted by those who could not stand the thought of him succeeding in Fiji when they have not ie. his 1000 cow dairy farm, I hear the farmer has left the backstabbing aviation environment and bought another dairy farm in NZ -his third.
Its a real shame for Fiji that he was screwed and his dairy farm project was scuttled. The financial loss to Fiji is in the millions, not to mention the flow on credits from knowledge transfer and skills training. Last year I spent a whole day with him - the climate was fantastic and the views breathtaking. We went all over the area checking water flows in streams, spray trials of weeds and guava trees, grass trials, soil moisture readings -it dawned on me why he took me after we got stuck! He had spent 3 yrs conducting research and grass trials - including importing 3 new species of grass. I am not a farmer but to see his trial plots was amazing. Thirty plus plots of various species at different stages of growth, recording the effects of irrigation, different types of fertiliser, and various cutting options. I have never seen someone so dedicated to his hobby as he called it.
Good luck to him
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Profit
Heard FJ made 30 Million profit ending march?
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FJ FSO Resigned??
Heard through the vine that the Air Pac FSO, above mentioned, has resigned (though resigned from what is not quite clear - posn as FSO or the co. itself). Anyone able (or wanting) to confirm?
BJ
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FSO resigned
Yes, it is true.
Who will be the next "flunkie" in this position.
Exit door still very busy too. more departures for Emirates & Oman.
Top floor still not listening. Second floor still not hearing or seeing what is wrong all around them.
Who will be the next "flunkie" in this position.
Exit door still very busy too. more departures for Emirates & Oman.
Top floor still not listening. Second floor still not hearing or seeing what is wrong all around them.
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Fit & ? Persons
Gents (& Ladies).
Recent posts indicate that the question must be asked - Is FJ Mgt 'Fit to do the job?' ie. MANAGE AN AIRLINE.
SAFETY INCIDENTS
TRAINING issues
Mass resignations - Why are they all leaving? Is it JUST for money?
I think not. The real reasons are more deep rooted- Just like the Kava root.
It is obvious that the original post to this thread was smack on Vref!
Great little airline - pity the same can not be said about the management.
Recent posts indicate that the question must be asked - Is FJ Mgt 'Fit to do the job?' ie. MANAGE AN AIRLINE.
SAFETY INCIDENTS
TRAINING issues
Mass resignations - Why are they all leaving? Is it JUST for money?
I think not. The real reasons are more deep rooted- Just like the Kava root.
It is obvious that the original post to this thread was smack on Vref!
Great little airline - pity the same can not be said about the management.
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so na tamata gaga
Always the same people replying on every Air Pac thread.......no wonder you guys are miserable or have left. Blaming everybody else will definitely make your lives better. How about putting your names down and let the Air Pac boys & girls judge what kind of operator you were/are, if you all think you were hot stuff and could fly an "aircraft on rails" or with one leg over your head than you got nothing to lose. If you have left AP then give it rest, enjoy your new employer, career and greener pasture. If you as a pilot think you have been shafted than try having a chat with a security guard who is paid less than $2 an hour, who's required to stay awake all night only to knock off work and find his own way home in the middle of nowhere to a little tin shack home. Every airline has their flaws, AP definitely has its own....maybe its the managment.........or maybe its just ourselves.
Stay Blessed.
Stay Blessed.
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ETOPS area of applicability
This post is coming a little late but I just wanted to point out that an ETOPS area of applicability is not something you can find in a Boeing manual. AOA are based on one engine inoperative cruise speeds chosen by the company, approved by the regulatory authority, and listed in the company op specs. 1230 nm may very well be FJ's AOA. What you will find in the Boeing manual are a range of drift down and one engine inoperative speeds that you can choose from.
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Expat pilots to go home
Fijitimes.com.fj - Tuesday, March 17, 2009
"AIR Pacific is expected to this year release 12 of the 26 expatriate pilots it has on contract.
The airline will also be cutting back on its twice weekly flights to Port Vila and Honiara at the end of this month.
Chief executive officer John Campbell has reassured none of its Fiji employees would be laid off.
Mr Campbell said reduced flights had forced the national airline to cut costs.
"We are going to reduce our number of contracted or leased pilots," he said.
"At the moment we have 26 contracted pilots," he said.
"We are working with the employment company that they come through to determine how many will be finally released. But I do expect to release half, maybe 12."
Mr Campbell said they had a good relationship with their employees and the unions.
"It's quite natural that people want a pay increase and more benefits. We understand that everybody has to live and when costs go up they want adjustments to their salaries," he said.
Air Pacific operates a twice weekly service into Honiara every Tuesday and Friday from Nadi.
The Friday service was introduced a year ago.
Mr Campbell said the decision to cut back on the flights was purely an economic one based on the conditions that had driven the market down."
"AIR Pacific is expected to this year release 12 of the 26 expatriate pilots it has on contract.
The airline will also be cutting back on its twice weekly flights to Port Vila and Honiara at the end of this month.
Chief executive officer John Campbell has reassured none of its Fiji employees would be laid off.
Mr Campbell said reduced flights had forced the national airline to cut costs.
"We are going to reduce our number of contracted or leased pilots," he said.
"At the moment we have 26 contracted pilots," he said.
"We are working with the employment company that they come through to determine how many will be finally released. But I do expect to release half, maybe 12."
Mr Campbell said they had a good relationship with their employees and the unions.
"It's quite natural that people want a pay increase and more benefits. We understand that everybody has to live and when costs go up they want adjustments to their salaries," he said.
Air Pacific operates a twice weekly service into Honiara every Tuesday and Friday from Nadi.
The Friday service was introduced a year ago.
Mr Campbell said the decision to cut back on the flights was purely an economic one based on the conditions that had driven the market down."
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Fiji Citizens Wit Aus Liscence....!!!!
I am new to this blog...but I am just wondering if Pac Sun or any other Airlines in Fiji would give us a job if we have Aus. CPL, IREX and Frozen ATPL in Fiji with the current situation.....We know everything is not as good as it has used to be,,,,,,,but you can not take Fiji out of a Fijian 
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mate, from what I understand, Fiji has relaxed its rules around dual citizenship and actually welcome back ex-citizens. Pac Sun/Air Pac have been pushing to replace expats with locals for a while (on my recent flight back via ATR fron NFNA-NFFN, both pilots and relieft crew were all white 
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Give them a call I say.
) .Give them a call I say.
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@ Pharoah
Yup...I will try to call them and ask about the selection criteria of Pac Sun...!!!! But sometimes to get a job it comes to who you know and not what you know!!!!!
I am still a Fijian Citizen!!!!! Hope I get in Pac Sun with my low hours
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I am still a Fijian Citizen!!!!! Hope I get in Pac Sun with my low hours!!!!