EPIRBS - What happens next?
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EPIRBS - What happens next?
Cruising along at 5000', or FL180, or FL370, you pick up an EPIRB on 121.5.
You tell ML/BN Centre and they might ask you for some info to narrow it down (FL/ALT, position etc).
If it's a modern unit, it's blasting off its position to a satellite.
What happens next? Who monitors the satellite? Who owns it? Who do ATC call, and how seriously do they take it?
It's not too uncommon, so it would be nice to know what process AUSAR (and whoever else) use to evalutate an EPIRB.
You tell ML/BN Centre and they might ask you for some info to narrow it down (FL/ALT, position etc).
If it's a modern unit, it's blasting off its position to a satellite.
What happens next? Who monitors the satellite? Who owns it? Who do ATC call, and how seriously do they take it?
It's not too uncommon, so it would be nice to know what process AUSAR (and whoever else) use to evalutate an EPIRB.
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All calls received by ATC of 121.5 signals are taken very seriously and a distress phase is declared. AusSAR is advised and aircraft within the general area are asked by ATC to monitor 121.5 and advise when they get the signal, lose the signal and whether squelch is enabled or disabled. All this info is passed onto the folks at AusSAR who are able to narrow it down by overlaying the possible areas from each pilots info (by knowing VHF coverage at different altitudes etc).
There is a 121.5 satellite pass every 4 hours or so and this will then assist further in pinpointing the beacon. Under the COSPAS- SARSAT international satellite aided tracking system, polar orbiting satellites are able to detect distress signals from radio beacons. As the satellites pass overhead, signals are detected and relayed back to AusSAR's RCC in Canberra through ground receiver stations located at Albany, Western Australia, Bundaberg, Queensland, and Wellington, New Zealand.
As you would probably be aware the 406 beacons will become mandatory before long, and their increased accuracy, combined with a registration in the transmission will ensure quicker responses but also reduce the costs associated with false alarms as they can attempt to contact registered owners before cranking up expensive search aircraft. There is plenty more detailed info available from AMSA's website http://www.amsa.gov.au/Search_and_Rescue/
So all in all it is very important that you keep passing on any 121.5 details you hear, who knows, one day it might unfortunately be you who is awaiting rescue.
There is a 121.5 satellite pass every 4 hours or so and this will then assist further in pinpointing the beacon. Under the COSPAS- SARSAT international satellite aided tracking system, polar orbiting satellites are able to detect distress signals from radio beacons. As the satellites pass overhead, signals are detected and relayed back to AusSAR's RCC in Canberra through ground receiver stations located at Albany, Western Australia, Bundaberg, Queensland, and Wellington, New Zealand.
As you would probably be aware the 406 beacons will become mandatory before long, and their increased accuracy, combined with a registration in the transmission will ensure quicker responses but also reduce the costs associated with false alarms as they can attempt to contact registered owners before cranking up expensive search aircraft. There is plenty more detailed info available from AMSA's website http://www.amsa.gov.au/Search_and_Rescue/
So all in all it is very important that you keep passing on any 121.5 details you hear, who knows, one day it might unfortunately be you who is awaiting rescue.
Last edited by prop-wash; 16th Jun 2007 at 18:45. Reason: fixing my 4.30am spelling mistakes
Interesting post!
The last two occassions I have been flying (last weekend going to and coming from the Qantas B707 VH-X(E)BA "City of Canberra" arrival at YLRE) there have been beacons going off on 121.5. One around Proserpine and one around Townsville. Never heard anymore about them in relation to either aircraft or boats - so I assume they were false alarms.
When I was in NZ (20+ yrs ago) there was a spate of false beacon alerts. All pilots were sent a letter by the Civi Aviation Department (or whatever they were called), to check before shutting down that our beacon had not activated, and we were threatened with dire consequences for false activations.
Only a matter of weeks later there was a major search in the Wellington area (involving helicopters and all) for a beacon that was going off. It was eventually located in a cupboard in the Civil Aviation Department's Head Office. We got good mileage out of that for some time afterwards!
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The last two occassions I have been flying (last weekend going to and coming from the Qantas B707 VH-X(E)BA "City of Canberra" arrival at YLRE) there have been beacons going off on 121.5. One around Proserpine and one around Townsville. Never heard anymore about them in relation to either aircraft or boats - so I assume they were false alarms.
When I was in NZ (20+ yrs ago) there was a spate of false beacon alerts. All pilots were sent a letter by the Civi Aviation Department (or whatever they were called), to check before shutting down that our beacon had not activated, and we were threatened with dire consequences for false activations.
Only a matter of weeks later there was a major search in the Wellington area (involving helicopters and all) for a beacon that was going off. It was eventually located in a cupboard in the Civil Aviation Department's Head Office. We got good mileage out of that for some time afterwards!
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Thankfully most are false alarms, but it is good to know that should I ever need it, lots of people seem to be looking out!
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The 406's also tx on 121.5 for the homing so when you hear it it may already have been sorted. When you call ATC and please do, the RCC in AMSA will be listening and you'll probably hear them asking any other aircraft flying above it if they hear it. The sats pass a little more frequently these days and they will now task after a first sat pass, especially if the other aircraft are still hearing it.
The sats are owned by a number of collaborative nations depending on where you are and which one hears it. The initial posn will be about within 20nm for a 121.5 and 5 nm for a 406. The second pass is useful in giving a more accurate posn and making sure it's the right hemisphere. The EBIRB's sometimes bounce off terrain and the posn is off but normally not by much.
So depending on where you are, help should be there within 2-3 hrs, maybe quicker, and they'll find you pretty quickly these days. Switch to the 406 so they can make the required calls and it helps in narrowing the search area. The 243's most aircraft carry are again dual freq but are soon to be phased on sat listening so again please update. Not a big cost but will help the right people get to you quickly. Also test it and check it.
The sats are owned by a number of collaborative nations depending on where you are and which one hears it. The initial posn will be about within 20nm for a 121.5 and 5 nm for a 406. The second pass is useful in giving a more accurate posn and making sure it's the right hemisphere. The EBIRB's sometimes bounce off terrain and the posn is off but normally not by much.
So depending on where you are, help should be there within 2-3 hrs, maybe quicker, and they'll find you pretty quickly these days. Switch to the 406 so they can make the required calls and it helps in narrowing the search area. The 243's most aircraft carry are again dual freq but are soon to be phased on sat listening so again please update. Not a big cost but will help the right people get to you quickly. Also test it and check it.
Last edited by Whiskey Oscar Golf; 17th Jun 2007 at 00:58. Reason: Clarification
Just wondering how long it takes for a new 406 signal to be picked up and the details retrieved from it. I ask because i participated in a SAR op up near charters towers a few weeks ago and we got a call from AUSSAR 3.5 hours after the accident happened asking to check our beacons in our aircraft. We were then given coordinates and took off to search. took another hour to find him. All in all 5 hours to locate the crash, which was mostly due to the slow initial response from AUSSAR. I'm not having a go at AUSSAR as they do a great job, but I thought this was quite a long time. If anyone could enlighten me why it would take so long to even get an aircraft in the air that would be good.
On another note, the lat and long position given was very close to the actual position. 1/2 a degree off on one of them.
On another note, the lat and long position given was very close to the actual position. 1/2 a degree off on one of them.
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406 Distress Beacons
97% of Distress Beacon activations are non distress situations
The 406 transmissions from the digital beacons are detected by geostationary satellites and provided the beacon is deployed well the Rescue Coordination Centre (RCC) will know about the activation within 4 to 8 minutes.
406 beacons are encoded, this allows the RCC to identify which beacon is active and provided it is registered the RCC will also know owns the beacon. Some 406 beacons also have GPS capability and also provide a GPS position.
If you want to know more go to -
http://beacons.amsa.gov.au/ - and
http://www.cospas-sarsat.org/
More info on distress beacons than you probably need to know.
The 406 transmissions from the digital beacons are detected by geostationary satellites and provided the beacon is deployed well the Rescue Coordination Centre (RCC) will know about the activation within 4 to 8 minutes.
406 beacons are encoded, this allows the RCC to identify which beacon is active and provided it is registered the RCC will also know owns the beacon. Some 406 beacons also have GPS capability and also provide a GPS position.
If you want to know more go to -
http://beacons.amsa.gov.au/ - and
http://www.cospas-sarsat.org/
More info on distress beacons than you probably need to know.
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The 121.5 satellites are being turned off in feb 2009, replaced with 406 EPIRB system. It will be even more important to listen out on 121.5 after that, since we will be the only means by which an ELT is to be monitored.
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It affects my day as well!!
A 121.5 or 243.0 or VHF(FM) #16 transmission also has a big impact on my day as a SAR boy.
As a general rule, a couple of passes of the sat is needed for a helo to be called and then we are off for an investigate! Often they are spurious - the last one we found a nice yacht in the general area and a rather tipsy captain saying his beacon was perfectly reliable and not transmitting - knew it was reliable because he was playing with it an hour ago more than likely!
To be honest, yes we do take them seriously as the 'investgators' but get quite synical when sent on a SAROP to search for it's source!
Also, should know this but dont
- what is the military (UK) going to do when we turn off 121.5 sats - do we hope we dont crash or are we getting a new piece of kit. Probably happen like it normally does, after sat is turned off the mil will play catch up and have to rush in some inadequate kit to tick the box.
Does anybody know is the mighty Seaking is getting new homers soon? I fly them and I dont know!!!
HS
As a general rule, a couple of passes of the sat is needed for a helo to be called and then we are off for an investigate! Often they are spurious - the last one we found a nice yacht in the general area and a rather tipsy captain saying his beacon was perfectly reliable and not transmitting - knew it was reliable because he was playing with it an hour ago more than likely!
To be honest, yes we do take them seriously as the 'investgators' but get quite synical when sent on a SAROP to search for it's source!
Also, should know this but dont
- what is the military (UK) going to do when we turn off 121.5 sats - do we hope we dont crash or are we getting a new piece of kit. Probably happen like it normally does, after sat is turned off the mil will play catch up and have to rush in some inadequate kit to tick the box.Does anybody know is the mighty Seaking is getting new homers soon? I fly them and I dont know!!!
HS
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Boofhead – not true.
The 406 distress beacon network is a satellite based alerting network providing notification of your beacon activation within minutes to the RCC. Gone are the days of waiting for the polar orbiting satellites or over flying aircraft to detect the signal. The 121.5 signal from a 406 beacon is very low powered compared with the 121.5 beacons and is only there to assist the “final homing” of rescue teams.
The 406 alerting network is working now, we are in the transition period.
It is expected CASA will make amendments to Regs to mandate the carriage of 406 distress beacons where 121.5 are now required about the middle of next year. Same goes for the state governments with laws relating to EPIRBs in the maritime environments. As I said earlier we are currently in the transition period, people should be making the change now as their old equipment comes to the end of it battery life and not wait until the 1 Feb 2009 when your 121.5 MHz Beacon will be as useful as a parachute in a simulator.
It’s a great system: Membership is the cost of your beacon. You do not pay for the supporting world wide network and if you need to be rescued you do not even pay for the rescue.
The 406 distress beacon network is a satellite based alerting network providing notification of your beacon activation within minutes to the RCC. Gone are the days of waiting for the polar orbiting satellites or over flying aircraft to detect the signal. The 121.5 signal from a 406 beacon is very low powered compared with the 121.5 beacons and is only there to assist the “final homing” of rescue teams.
The 406 alerting network is working now, we are in the transition period.
It is expected CASA will make amendments to Regs to mandate the carriage of 406 distress beacons where 121.5 are now required about the middle of next year. Same goes for the state governments with laws relating to EPIRBs in the maritime environments. As I said earlier we are currently in the transition period, people should be making the change now as their old equipment comes to the end of it battery life and not wait until the 1 Feb 2009 when your 121.5 MHz Beacon will be as useful as a parachute in a simulator.
It’s a great system: Membership is the cost of your beacon. You do not pay for the supporting world wide network and if you need to be rescued you do not even pay for the rescue.
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Good call Thermal bandit, just as a small aside. Please when you get your 406 beacon make sure you register it and if you sell it or buy a second hand one make sure you ammend the details. Nothing worse than calling the wrong person and chasing who bought it.
On the sat passes we will be tasked on first pass these days depending on posn and other aircraft hearing. I hope readers never have to use them but another helpful tip would be to carry a personal one as well, I don't know how small the 406's are now so if someone knows any details please let us know but don't rely on the aircraft. I can testify that the G activation doesn't always work. That and when you test it tune the vhf so you actually hear the tx i have come across freq drift which makes our SAR job much harder.
Safe Flying
On the sat passes we will be tasked on first pass these days depending on posn and other aircraft hearing. I hope readers never have to use them but another helpful tip would be to carry a personal one as well, I don't know how small the 406's are now so if someone knows any details please let us know but don't rely on the aircraft. I can testify that the G activation doesn't always work. That and when you test it tune the vhf so you actually hear the tx i have come across freq drift which makes our SAR job much harder.
Safe Flying
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Ozi Build 406 PLB
http://www.gme.net.au/epirb/mt410_specifications.php
They are due in the shops at the end of June or early July
They are due in the shops at the end of June or early July
