Sydney Scenic routings
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Sydney Scenic routings
What variations on the standard "Sydney Scenic" tour have you tried successfully?
My usual one is:
1. Up the Bankstown lane of entry at about 2000 feet.
2. Down Broken Bay at about 1500 feet.
3. Orbits around Pittwater, Scotland Island, and Lion Island at 1500 feet.
4. Around Barrenjoey Head, beginning descent to 500 feet once past the lighthouse.
5. Down the Barrenjoey Peninsula at 500 feet, remaining east of the coast.
6. Climb to 1500 feet in a 360-degree turn out to sea, arriving at 1500 feet by Long Reef.
7. Into harbor area at 1500 feet, orbits as allowed.
8. Out the heads, descending to 500 feet, down Victor 1 to Jibbon Point, then climb and either head for Picnic Point or down the coast.
I would like to know:
What happens if you ask for direct Bondi (or some sort of track via Hyde Park to the coast) from the harbor? Are there times and days when this might be more likely to be allowed?
Can a fixed-wing aircraft ever get clearance up the river to rejoin the lane at Parramatta?
What other variations are little-known but legal, or can be requested?
Thanks.
My usual one is:
1. Up the Bankstown lane of entry at about 2000 feet.
2. Down Broken Bay at about 1500 feet.
3. Orbits around Pittwater, Scotland Island, and Lion Island at 1500 feet.
4. Around Barrenjoey Head, beginning descent to 500 feet once past the lighthouse.
5. Down the Barrenjoey Peninsula at 500 feet, remaining east of the coast.
6. Climb to 1500 feet in a 360-degree turn out to sea, arriving at 1500 feet by Long Reef.
7. Into harbor area at 1500 feet, orbits as allowed.
8. Out the heads, descending to 500 feet, down Victor 1 to Jibbon Point, then climb and either head for Picnic Point or down the coast.
I would like to know:
What happens if you ask for direct Bondi (or some sort of track via Hyde Park to the coast) from the harbor? Are there times and days when this might be more likely to be allowed?
Can a fixed-wing aircraft ever get clearance up the river to rejoin the lane at Parramatta?
What other variations are little-known but legal, or can be requested?
Thanks.
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Direct Bondi - NO (or so rare it might as well be NO)
Via Paramatta River - YES (depends on the runway in use at YSSY)
Can request a city orbit - Darling Harbour - Central Station - Hyde Park - Harbour (not often given though)
Via Paramatta River - YES (depends on the runway in use at YSSY)
Can request a city orbit - Darling Harbour - Central Station - Hyde Park - Harbour (not often given though)
What other variations
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Once got a direct to the bridge from Hornsby - so did the whole thing in reverse. That was kinda different.
Haven't asked for CBD orbits before... that may be my next challenge, if the runways in use at YSSY are favourable.
Haven't asked for CBD orbits before... that may be my next challenge, if the runways in use at YSSY are favourable.
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City orbits are great when you can get them in the day.
If you need some night hours (hope your in a twin) then arrive into Sydney CTA after 1030-11pm, get the right ATC guy and you can get unrestricted orbits anywhere you like, the city, over mascot, Botany etc...........you can usually depart BK direct to the city and back again at that time of night, on a quiet night its gold!
If you need some night hours (hope your in a twin) then arrive into Sydney CTA after 1030-11pm, get the right ATC guy and you can get unrestricted orbits anywhere you like, the city, over mascot, Botany etc...........you can usually depart BK direct to the city and back again at that time of night, on a quiet night its gold!
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So you'd request a city orbit in the flight notification remarks section, then?
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Rustywings:
Why would I need a twin to do night city orbits?
Bentleg:
Why would the procedure have to be in the ERSA? It wouldn't. Remember, it's only a default-deny society, in which everything not explicitly allowed is forbidden rather than the inverse, if we let it be.
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Why would I need a twin to do night city orbits?
Bentleg:
Why would the procedure have to be in the ERSA? It wouldn't. Remember, it's only a default-deny society, in which everything not explicitly allowed is forbidden rather than the inverse, if we let it be.
CH
Bentleg:
Why would the procedure have to be in the ERSA?
Why would the procedure have to be in the ERSA?
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DickyPearse was saying it was in ERSA - and I challenged that in my post.
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Crossair, haven't you heard that twins get fewer engine failures at night?
Singles are fine over cities at night, after all the engine doesn't know its dark .... Just remember when the engine fails keep your landing light off until down to about 200' then swtich it on. If you like what you see keep it on. If not, turn it off again.
Singles are fine over cities at night, after all the engine doesn't know its dark .... Just remember when the engine fails keep your landing light off until down to about 200' then swtich it on. If you like what you see keep it on. If not, turn it off again.
