757 Mayday Video

[forget]

Did you notice the firies peering in what they considered was the damaged one?

Hmmm. One engine was running, one was stopped. Perhaps they'd correctly considered that the damaged one was the stopped one.

The pilot twice advised ATC, and the fire crew, that the left engine would be kept running on the ground. I was interested to see that the fire crew (deliberately??) walked, rather than run and (further) alarm the passengers.

[J430]

Can't see but maybe they did not use any rev thrust at all, rather just speed brakes and landing gear brakes. and could have used less braking and more runway actually looking at it, therefore less heat. But hey....better to check than burn an airframe to the ground.
Overall, no loss of life or airframe, well maybe one bird, and an engine rebuild.....not cheap, but better than a few other options
Still a great pice of work, tech crew and video!
J

Had another look, maybe they did use rev thrust as a bit of left rudder was applied on the landing roll.

[tinpis]

Of course they didnt use assymetric reverse FFS

Was curious about the brake inspection because the capt requested it before his approach
Is it standard SOPs?

As far I acan remember the Boeing doesnt lose much at all assymetric the autobrake works as does the anti skid ?
No need for hairy flapless approach but there is a bug up for assy for go around?

I didnt hear the firies in the loop with ATC and the AC

If I was running an engine on the ground Id want to be plugged into an engineer for sure.

Would the god of qwantas 767 fleet KEG please help?

[J430]

Of course they didnt use assymetric reverse FFS

Agreed 100%.....and I dont fly heavy metal, but a lot of rudder deflection for "WIND CALM", and thats ok, just seems all left rudder, and someone else mentioned it.
Cheers Tinnie! any spare rain up that way ya don't want??
J

[tinpis]

Left rudder after touchdown
Think about it ..close left throttle..?

Im not denigrating whats the chaps at all grand effort
Im just curious about the brake thing
No rain her matey we is in the dry now for ever if you believe the doomsayin treehuggin climate mind 'kin huggy fluffs

[PPRuNe Towers]

Fire crew comms - seperate, discrete frequency at major UK airports so up on box two for direct link to attending units.

Time allowing can talk to them before landing for briefing and set up - done it myself when the left hyd system defoliated part of an English county during departure. 757 so potential problems with flaps, slats, gear and steer.

Downside? Strange people with limited social skills, no life and a scanner have let the 4th Estate know long before you arrive.

[tinpis]

Oh.....another thing ..if you were concerned yer brakes were alight why not STOP on the bloody runway ?
Why faff about taxying off for another five minutes?

Right past me bedtime

[Wizofoz]

Of course they didnt use assymetric reverse FFS

What makes you think that? Using reverse ( DEFINATLEY Idle reverse, full is optional but a good idea) on the remaining engine is SOP at every airline and on every Boeing I've flown, so I doubt Thomson would be any different.

No need for hairy flapless approach but there is a bug up for assy for go around?

As I mentioned, it's a reduced flap landing. 767 (and so I assume 757) and 777 it's flap 20 instead of the usual flap 30, 737 was flap 15 instead of the usual flap 30/40.

[forget]

Jeez, Some people just can't win. Heavy aircraft, bloody great birds into the No 2 at 50 feet off the deck, text book handling by all concerned - but -

Wrong flap setting! Assymetric reversers! Far too much rudder on touch down. Too much chatter from ATC! Fireman daring to check a damaged engine for possible fuel line damage!

Next time I'm in the back with a similar failure please, please give me -

Wrong flap setting! Assymetric reversers! Far too much rudder on touch down. Too much chatter from ATC! Fireman daring to check a damaged engine for possible fuel line damage!

[Wizofoz]

Forgot,

If that was aimed at me, I can assure you it was not what I meant.

Looked to me like they did a text-book job, meaning they used the appropriate (reduced!!) flap setting, and reverse on the good engine, just as Mr Boeing intended!!

[Capt. Queeg]

Of course they didnt use assymetric reverse FFS

WTF wouldn't they use assymetric reverse? Why would the Thomson 757 SOPs be any different to the SOPs of any other Boeing operation?

You bin on the sauce again, TinPis?

Why is it the R&N thread on this topic is full of praise for the pilots but the D&G forum is full of bullsh!t.....?
This is embarrassing.

[forget]

Forget, If that was aimed at me, I can assure you it was not what I meant.

Certainly not aimed at you Wizzofoz. I know you know they did a text-book job.
Clue - I've just noticed, another 'screw up' was not stopping on the runway for a brake check when - really - they lost the last of their speed by turning onto a taxiway - thus leaving the runway free - but losing no time.

[tinpis]

#27

Im not denigrating whats the chaps at all grand effort

Bit mangled but you get my drift....

Thanks all for your replies

Nice day,think Ill go fishing.

[Defenestrator]

Oh.....another thing ..if you were concerned yer brakes were alight why not STOP on the bloody runway ?
Why faff about taxying off for another five minutes?

Tinny,
You won't see a peak in the brake temps for around 15-20 mins after landing. Have done many exercises on type in the sim WRT single engine landings. On a runway that will accomodate the aircraft under normal ops and assuming it touched down on the 1000' markers (little float), autobrakes 2, maybe 3, will pull her up no probs on one engine. The brakes will get hot but not enough to melt the plugs or at worse cause a fire. Again, they did a great job.
D

[Aynayda Pizaqvick]

I to was surprised with the level of chat from ATC, particularly getting him to change frequencies! Last thing you want to do is lose contact with him mid emergency! Normally in the UK I have just had 'listen out this frequency for Approach/Tower etc' and stayed on whatever frequency I happened to be on at the time.

[DX Wombat]

I know they are made to take a chook but that has gotta damage something!

For those of you Dunnunda who are not too familiar with the specie of bird involved, they were Grey Herons which are large creatures 37 inches (96cms approx) in height. More like your average Christmas turkey than a dainty little sparrow.

[bushy]

????

And the engine was undamaged? That's hard to believe.

[forget]

And the engine was undamaged? That's hard to believe.

The heron is all feathers bones and beak, and, in this case, very big eyes. Very little weight or meat to it. Still............

[tinpis]

They probably a bit bird=strike /fire sensitive at MAN

[the wizard of auz]

For those of you Dunnunda who are not too familiar with the specie of bird involved, they were Grey Herons which are large creatures 37 inches (96cms approx) in height. More like your average Christmas turkey than a dainty little sparrow.

I'm not sure if you met Stretch when you were here, but he is one o them.
boney little bugger....... always hungry too.