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This thread would be 6 pages long by now if all the posts were not being removed.
The reason this thread has brought so many responses is that Avi8ter asked a very pertinent question. Many people have many varied points of view and are very willing to share their experiences opinions and advice.
When a post is altered or removed in part or in total tthere used to be an explanation by the moderator that took that action. Why is it that censorship if these posts is now being done on the quiet?
Bring back Woomera.
I think not. This arse (as we Australians call it) is being kissed by fewer and fewer people by the day. Had I known then what I know now I would never have put myself in a position to offend by refusing to ‘KISS’ it in the first place. I wish I had the wisdom to ask Avi8ter's question myself.
20:20 in hindsight. Counting the days.
The reason this thread has brought so many responses is that Avi8ter asked a very pertinent question. Many people have many varied points of view and are very willing to share their experiences opinions and advice.
When a post is altered or removed in part or in total tthere used to be an explanation by the moderator that took that action. Why is it that censorship if these posts is now being done on the quiet?
Bring back Woomera.
be careful of the toes you stand on today as they may be attached to the ass you have to kiss tommorrow
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my reference has more to do with individuals who slam thier current or former management/co-workers only to find in a couple of years those same people may be responsible for hiring them into 'bigger and better things'
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FACTS!
The company in question employs ALL pilots FULL-TIME and on SALARY. The majority of GA operators in WA and the rest of Australia employ mostly only casual pilots. Having a regular known income, you can save a regular amount and know what you have to play with. Especially when you have a BIG debt for all your flight training!
---ALSO, if a flight is cancelled you are still going to get paid!---
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
Since your full-time, you don’t pay for any Instrument Rating Renewals, Line or Base checks, plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot. Many GA operators in Australia require the pilot to pay for Renewals; I have even heard of some operators that make the pilot pay for Line and Base checks.
The bond is NOT UPFRONT! It is purely just, ‘Put Your Money Where Your Mouth IS!’ by that I mean, each and every pilot strives for bigger and better things (turbines, regional’s, wide-bodies, etc.) we all know that once we have logged the ‘Magic 500’, its ‘exit stage left’ as soon as something better comes up. As the company is very BIG on ‘Check and Training’ and they tend to make an investment in you, all they ask is that you give them a minimum commitment of 12months. Guaranteed income and flying for 12months.
Happy Flying all..
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'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
I have been reading PPRUNE for years now, some information here is ‘great advise’, but a lot of it is misleading, especially for the poor new comers to aviation, who (being naive) come here for advice. I think we all need to remember that companies (aviation and non-aviation) all over Australia (and the world) have ex. employees that will jump at any opportunity to put them down. I am sure we could all look back and find at least 1 (or more) negatives for each and every company we have worked for, but the BIG question is, 'Would you be where you are today without the experiences you had with that very same company?' I am sure each experience, both good and bad, is nothing more than simply just ‘good character building!'
---ALSO, if a flight is cancelled you are still going to get paid!---
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
Since your full-time, you don’t pay for any Instrument Rating Renewals, Line or Base checks, plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot. Many GA operators in Australia require the pilot to pay for Renewals; I have even heard of some operators that make the pilot pay for Line and Base checks.
The bond is NOT UPFRONT! It is purely just, ‘Put Your Money Where Your Mouth IS!’ by that I mean, each and every pilot strives for bigger and better things (turbines, regional’s, wide-bodies, etc.) we all know that once we have logged the ‘Magic 500’, its ‘exit stage left’ as soon as something better comes up. As the company is very BIG on ‘Check and Training’ and they tend to make an investment in you, all they ask is that you give them a minimum commitment of 12months. Guaranteed income and flying for 12months.
Happy Flying all..
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'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
I have been reading PPRUNE for years now, some information here is ‘great advise’, but a lot of it is misleading, especially for the poor new comers to aviation, who (being naive) come here for advice. I think we all need to remember that companies (aviation and non-aviation) all over Australia (and the world) have ex. employees that will jump at any opportunity to put them down. I am sure we could all look back and find at least 1 (or more) negatives for each and every company we have worked for, but the BIG question is, 'Would you be where you are today without the experiences you had with that very same company?' I am sure each experience, both good and bad, is nothing more than simply just ‘good character building!'
Having a regular known income,.
You're forgetting to mention that Hedland is not exactly a town where you could survive on casual wages. In reality you'd struggle to survive on a full time Golden Eagle wage! 
These guys receive alot of money from mining companies and the government for their charters so it should be right that the pilots receive full time salary.
I would hazard a guess that Golden Eagle pilots would be some of the cheapest labour in Port Hedland. I wouldn't see to many people in Hedland earning somewhere in the forties a year INCLUDING house allowance.
These guys receive alot of money from mining companies and the government for their charters so it should be right that the pilots receive full time salary.
I would hazard a guess that Golden Eagle pilots would be some of the cheapest labour in Port Hedland. I wouldn't see to many people in Hedland earning somewhere in the forties a year INCLUDING house allowance.
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Colin Mcrae Award for Driving
Budgie bus after incident with a Kimberley Cow. Pilot was awarded Colin Mcrae Award for Driving at the Annual Pilot Awards 2003.
Cow was stationary AND the driver was completely sober!! Whoops
Cow was stationary AND the driver was completely sober!! Whoops
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Wow, Gkmfly is game. Anyone who has worked there knows who it is.
Ha. Ive heard that peoples flights WERENT canceled and they still didnt get paid on time. Pilots defaulted on bank loans because pays sometimes arrived late.
Apparently the policy was to pay everyone else before derbi based pilots - ie if some pay was to be delayed, headland admin staff got full pay on time and pilots got nothing until it was available, rather than even distribution to all and then a top up when it became available. And where's their *$(*&@ super?
I get the feeling from talking to others that the only reason much more exposing information hasnt been posted on this thread is because people don't want to see current pilots lose their jobs.
He's very, very game posting on here id say.
---ALSO, if a flight is cancelled you are still going to get paid!---
Ha. Ive heard that peoples flights WERENT canceled and they still didnt get paid on time. Pilots defaulted on bank loans because pays sometimes arrived late. Apparently the policy was to pay everyone else before derbi based pilots - ie if some pay was to be delayed, headland admin staff got full pay on time and pilots got nothing until it was available, rather than even distribution to all and then a top up when it became available. And where's their *$(*&@ super?
I get the feeling from talking to others that the only reason much more exposing information hasnt been posted on this thread is because people don't want to see current pilots lose their jobs.
He's very, very game posting on here id say.
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Gkmfly you twit.
Gkmfly you twit. This post has been dead for a week and then you come on tith that cr@p
The company in question employs ALL pilots FULL-TIME and on SALARY.
Paying the award from two years ago dose not count. Superanuation and annual leave as well as loading are part of the award. Where are they? Not in employees accounts I think. Possibly in an orphanage in Thailand.
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
True, You just may get home about a week after you planned to because you broke down AGAIN and no one will work on your aircraft because they are all waiting for money for a job done two years ago.
plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot.
There is a small issue of having to log duty for every hour the sim is used. Unless you mean coming in on your own time and practicing I.F. That would be great but hours outside duty time are taken up with washing aircraft and doing paperwork to feed a system designed by a neurotic dyslexic, for the only purpose of taking up employees own time. That sim could be a great thing but as it stands, IT’S A GOLDEN COW.
After a 120 hour fortnight, when my bank calls to see why I am not paying my house off, white shirts covered in grease I don’t exactly feel like doing an hour in the sim. I feel like packing up and leaving town.
'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
Leave Ellen alone she has said only the truth aobut her experience. If Derby was run properly you may find where the company is actually haemorrhaging cash.
Igniting this thread again with such cr@p as it is only getting harder and harder to find someone stupid enough to sign a bond for a Chieftain that is already endorsed with 150 on type. I think that when you find karma takes its toll and you cant find anyone but contract pilots for $100 ph as well find that Gorilla is hiding in his office crying and you are flying 50 hours a week the good point is that you will not have time to make those ‘unchristian’ phone calls about ex employees. Even have time to have a good hard look at yourself.
Just between you an me
SUPERANUATION IS PART OF THE AWARD
Am I one of THE FEW PILOTS THAT HAVE RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE?
The company in question employs ALL pilots FULL-TIME and on SALARY.
Paying the award from two years ago dose not count. Superanuation and annual leave as well as loading are part of the award. Where are they? Not in employees accounts I think. Possibly in an orphanage in Thailand.
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
True, You just may get home about a week after you planned to because you broke down AGAIN and no one will work on your aircraft because they are all waiting for money for a job done two years ago.
plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot.
There is a small issue of having to log duty for every hour the sim is used. Unless you mean coming in on your own time and practicing I.F. That would be great but hours outside duty time are taken up with washing aircraft and doing paperwork to feed a system designed by a neurotic dyslexic, for the only purpose of taking up employees own time. That sim could be a great thing but as it stands, IT’S A GOLDEN COW.
After a 120 hour fortnight, when my bank calls to see why I am not paying my house off, white shirts covered in grease I don’t exactly feel like doing an hour in the sim. I feel like packing up and leaving town.
'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
Leave Ellen alone she has said only the truth aobut her experience. If Derby was run properly you may find where the company is actually haemorrhaging cash.
Igniting this thread again with such cr@p as it is only getting harder and harder to find someone stupid enough to sign a bond for a Chieftain that is already endorsed with 150 on type. I think that when you find karma takes its toll and you cant find anyone but contract pilots for $100 ph as well find that Gorilla is hiding in his office crying and you are flying 50 hours a week the good point is that you will not have time to make those ‘unchristian’ phone calls about ex employees. Even have time to have a good hard look at yourself.
Just between you an me
SUPERANUATION IS PART OF THE AWARD
Am I one of THE FEW PILOTS THAT HAVE RUINED IT FOR EVERYONE?
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Gkmfly you twit.
Gkmfly you twit. This post has been dead for a week and then you come on tith that cr@p
The company in question employs ALL pilots FULL-TIME and on SALARY.
Paying the award from two years ago dose not count. Superanuation and annual leave as well as loading are part of the award. Where are they? Not in employees accounts I think. Possibly in an orphanage in Thailand.
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
True, You just may get home about a week after you planned to because you broke down AGAIN and no one will work on your aircraft because they are all waiting for money for a job done two years ago.
plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot.
There is a small issue of having to log duty for every hour the sim is used. Unless you mean coming in on your own time. That would be great but hours outside duty time are taken up with washing aircraft and doing paperwork to feed a system designed by a neurotic dyslexic, for the only purpose of taking up employees own time. That sim could be a great thing but as it stands, IT’S A GOLDEN COW.
After a 120 hour fortnight, when my bank calls to see why I am not paying my house off, white shirts covered in grease I don’t exactly feel like doing an hour in the sim. I feel like packing up and leaving town. Am I the odd one out?
'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
If they have jobs to go to they will not be telling you where they are going.
Leave Ellen alone she has said only the truth aobut her experience. If Derby was run properly you may find where the company really is haemorrhaging cash.
Igniting this thread again with such cr@p as it is only getting harder and harder to find someone stupid enough to sign a bond for a Chieftain that is already endorsed with 150 on type. I think that when you find karma takes its toll and you cant find anyone but contract pilots for $100 ph as well find that Gorilla is hiding in his office crying and you are flying 50 hours a week the point is you will not have time to make those ‘unchristian’ phone calls. Even have time to have a good hard look at yourself.
Just between you an me
SUPERANUATION IS PART OF THE AWARD
H
The company in question employs ALL pilots FULL-TIME and on SALARY.
Paying the award from two years ago dose not count. Superanuation and annual leave as well as loading are part of the award. Where are they? Not in employees accounts I think. Possibly in an orphanage in Thailand.
Unlike casual, you know a good week before what days you are flying, therefore you can plan ahead etc.
True, You just may get home about a week after you planned to because you broke down AGAIN and no one will work on your aircraft because they are all waiting for money for a job done two years ago.
plus you get unlimited use of an Elite 6 simulator and ongoing ‘Check and Training’ at no additional cost to the pilot.
There is a small issue of having to log duty for every hour the sim is used. Unless you mean coming in on your own time. That would be great but hours outside duty time are taken up with washing aircraft and doing paperwork to feed a system designed by a neurotic dyslexic, for the only purpose of taking up employees own time. That sim could be a great thing but as it stands, IT’S A GOLDEN COW.
After a 120 hour fortnight, when my bank calls to see why I am not paying my house off, white shirts covered in grease I don’t exactly feel like doing an hour in the sim. I feel like packing up and leaving town. Am I the odd one out?
'Ellen White' - I do believe ur information is inacurate on the departed drivers..
If they have jobs to go to they will not be telling you where they are going.
Leave Ellen alone she has said only the truth aobut her experience. If Derby was run properly you may find where the company really is haemorrhaging cash.
Igniting this thread again with such cr@p as it is only getting harder and harder to find someone stupid enough to sign a bond for a Chieftain that is already endorsed with 150 on type. I think that when you find karma takes its toll and you cant find anyone but contract pilots for $100 ph as well find that Gorilla is hiding in his office crying and you are flying 50 hours a week the point is you will not have time to make those ‘unchristian’ phone calls. Even have time to have a good hard look at yourself.
Just between you an me
SUPERANUATION IS PART OF THE AWARD
H
Superannuation is a legal requirement if your employees are paid more than $450 gross per month, award or not.
Many operators seem to be getting away with not paying super, and have been for years.
Someone tell the tax office!
Sadly the worst employers I have ever had, when it comes to doing the right thing by the staff such as paying wages on time, are the "God Squad" types. Why is this? Are we supposed to turn the other cheek and forgive them?!
BTW I have never worked for the company being discussed here.
Many operators seem to be getting away with not paying super, and have been for years.
Someone tell the tax office!
Sadly the worst employers I have ever had, when it comes to doing the right thing by the staff such as paying wages on time, are the "God Squad" types. Why is this? Are we supposed to turn the other cheek and forgive them?!
BTW I have never worked for the company being discussed here.
WOW 6000+ views - that puts this thread in the top 5 of recent threads. Golden Eagle basking in the bright light on the sunny uplands in the land of milk and honey.
Hahahahahahaha!!
Hahahahahahaha!!
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6000 views. That cant make it any easier to get new employees now can it. Next we will see K man importing some of his Orphans on temp work visas to fill the gap.
Ellen, nice call about DOTARS. I think that is why we saw the response from gkmfly. Imagine the panic flowing through him when the first thought of accountability hit him in the cold hard light of day.
If anyone is still thinking of paying the bond to get some twin time there is one other factor you need to 'budget' for. Bond is $5000, plus GST $500, total cost to you $5500.
In the words of my old mate gkmfly
PS Ellen, do you think my post will be EDITED because I say the truth like you? I think the D(OTARS) word is too political for PRUNE.
Ellen, nice call about DOTARS. I think that is why we saw the response from gkmfly. Imagine the panic flowing through him when the first thought of accountability hit him in the cold hard light of day.
If anyone is still thinking of paying the bond to get some twin time there is one other factor you need to 'budget' for. Bond is $5000, plus GST $500, total cost to you $5500.
In the words of my old mate gkmfly
Happy Flying all..
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