Air National + Vincent = ??
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I doubt there is much truth to this...
while they both fly on behalf of Eagle, both companies have different roots, aiming at different types of flying.
(ie corp jets vs C421 freight flying) - not limited to though!
while they both fly on behalf of Eagle, both companies have different roots, aiming at different types of flying.
(ie corp jets vs C421 freight flying) - not limited to though!
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Thats an excellent rumour... PPrUNE lives up to it's reputation...
It would be like the NZ Labour and the NZ National party coming together to form a political party... the Labational Party!
It would be like the NZ Labour and the NZ National party coming together to form a political party... the Labational Party!
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You may mock the B1900 friend however this aircraft has somethings between its stubby legs that are missing from the fairer sex. This aircraft takes finess, skill, a keen eye and lateral thinking to operate. Yes Jets are fast and pretty but by nature remove a pilots capacity for evolving "his" brain and not the "computers" brain 
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Dear Mr Trigonomic, you state the 1900 requires the following qualities to be flown which I totally agree wth,"This aircraft takes finess, skill, a keen eye and lateral thinking to operate."
But the following comment unfortuntley is a little far removed from what I have seen - for a very small minority. "Yes Jets are fast and pretty but by nature remove a pilots capacity for evolving "his" brain and not the "computers" brain."
It has only been by pure luck and design of the aircraft that "evolving brains" that have exceeded design parameters havent smeared themselves, the aicraft and pax over wide brown lands in this type of aircraft.
But the following comment unfortuntley is a little far removed from what I have seen - for a very small minority. "Yes Jets are fast and pretty but by nature remove a pilots capacity for evolving "his" brain and not the "computers" brain."
It has only been by pure luck and design of the aircraft that "evolving brains" that have exceeded design parameters havent smeared themselves, the aicraft and pax over wide brown lands in this type of aircraft.
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Excellent observation 1650. The only question I have is 'has aircraft design been pure luck or evolvment'? Technology is also part of evolvement however I think it is wise to recognise that technology can also allow our brains to become lazy and rely on its use. The GPS is a good example. Some NG pilots are terrified if it drops off the screen.
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The GPS is a good example. Some NG pilots are terrified if it drops off the screen.
The only thing we are terrified of is being held up by a 1900.
Most "NG Pilots" worth there salt have spent years scaring themselves silly in GA with bugger all equipment. Those habits become deeply ingrained and hard to forget, a little old GPS failure means pilot brain reversion, not a problem.
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Iceblock,
You obviously have no experience (or little) sharing the skies with the 1900. Invariably, it's the turboprop guys that get held up by 73's and the like. And, I am talking about finals.
Most pilots worth "their" salt would know that already................
You obviously have no experience (or little) sharing the skies with the 1900. Invariably, it's the turboprop guys that get held up by 73's and the like. And, I am talking about finals.
Most pilots worth "their" salt would know that already................
Well all youse guys in your turboprops and NG's hold me up in my BN2!!!!!!
The 1900 may need finese, but you can't beat a BN2 for your 30mins of cardio a day 
AND let me tell you that when the GPS fails in the bongo and a technical tap (aka; beating the SH
T out of it) doesn't fix it, I get a little worried
Lets all start slanging eachother good and proper, come on, lets get the real mud flying and turn the thread into an appendage comparison!!!
I seem to recall the thread being something about a merger? Hell I don't even know who the companies are but you can smell the egos from this thread as soon as you log on.
Deep breath, do your fly up and get on with it!
j3 - Hopefully one day a brain dead NG driver
The 1900 may need finese, but you can't beat a BN2 for your 30mins of cardio a day AND let me tell you that when the GPS fails in the bongo and a technical tap (aka; beating the SHT out of it) doesn't fix it, I get a little worried Lets all start slanging eachother good and proper, come on, lets get the real mud flying and turn the thread into an appendage comparison!!!
I seem to recall the thread being something about a merger? Hell I don't even know who the companies are but you can smell the egos from this thread as soon as you log on.
Deep breath, do your fly up and get on with it!
j3 - Hopefully one day a brain dead NG driver
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This aircraft takes finess, skill, a keen eye and lateral thinking to operate. Yes Jets are fast and pretty but by nature remove a pilots capacity for evolving "his" brain and not the "computers" brain
1900 your first turboprop is it? And you have the "computer" experience to compare the two types of operation?
Yes jets do hold up turboprops on finals, pretty difficult to do Vmo to 5 mile final in a jet.... Has something to do with inertia I think.... Im not really sure though... I could always ask the computer I suppose...
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A thousand apologies iceblob I meant New Generation Pilots not Pilots who fly NG airplanes.............
You obviously have no experience (or little) sharing the skies with the 1900. Invariably, it's the turboprop guys that get held up by 73's and the like. And, I am talking about finals.
So you get held up by a jet for about 4 to 13nm. We get held up by you for 60 or 90nm. You see, you don't have the big picture. While you are grovelling along at low level and low speed we are being slowed by 100 to 140kts just to accomodate you. Don't worry we don't blame you we blame ATC that don't communicate with each other from sector to sector. Good controllers will give us no speed or greater than 320kts to 15nm. In that case you don't even know we went right on by while you were going "so fast".
And I am talking about the whole sky not just 13nm.
