Qf Hs-125 Vh-ece
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Fris B. Fairing thanks mate, it was a long time ago and Perth Airport has changed a little.
I'll take a wander round tomorrow and see if I can place it although I think those particular buildings may bo longer be around.
We built an FBO at the Northern end in 1970 I think, which is now occupied or owned by Hawker Pacific, Ron McGrath has his operation there and there was nothing further North then so it might have been down the southern end near the MMA Hangars.
Philthy
Ahh yes if I recall it correctly that was a comedy that came sooo close to tragedy.
was that the one that "needed" to land at Telfer enroute to Pt Hedland from Melbourne??
I'll take a wander round tomorrow and see if I can place it although I think those particular buildings may bo longer be around.
We built an FBO at the Northern end in 1970 I think, which is now occupied or owned by Hawker Pacific, Ron McGrath has his operation there and there was nothing further North then so it might have been down the southern end near the MMA Hangars.
Philthy
Ahh yes if I recall it correctly that was a comedy that came sooo close to tragedy.
was that the one that "needed" to land at Telfer enroute to Pt Hedland from Melbourne??
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Your memory is probably better on it than mine as I'd forgotten all about it, the folks might enjoy the story??
Why they thought it would go non stop escapes me for the moment.
Why they thought it would go non stop escapes me for the moment.
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This was taken in 1959. Look in the top right of the picture.
1968
1969
1970
1972
1973
If you can pick the taxyway in the 1969 shot, and assuming the EC-135 is parked in the same area 4 years later, you might be able to work out where VH-TOM is parked? The buildings don't quite match though - no windows in the 1973 shot.
I'm guessing that is Fauntleroy Ave. behind VH-TOM and it is parked about where PFC is today. Got me stuffed otherwise.
This was taken in 1959. Look in the top right of the picture.
1968
1969
1970
1972
1973
If you can pick the taxyway in the 1969 shot, and assuming the EC-135 is parked in the same area 4 years later, you might be able to work out where VH-TOM is parked? The buildings don't quite match though - no windows in the 1973 shot.
I'm guessing that is Fauntleroy Ave. behind VH-TOM and it is parked about where PFC is today. Got me stuffed otherwise.
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Here are a couple of photos from Jeffri Goodali, the well-known Georgian Mafia Boss and Air Traffic Controller.
The first, c.1980, I have marked to show a couple of likely hangars:
The second shows Baron VH-CFA in a similar position to VH-TOM in April 1971, definitely at Perth:
The first, c.1980, I have marked to show a couple of likely hangars:
The second shows Baron VH-CFA in a similar position to VH-TOM in April 1971, definitely at Perth:
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Nah couldn't be Dick Jackson and I sure it wasn't Graeme Kessel, it'll come to me in a minite.
That std DCA type building must have become Ansett Flt Catering, that bigarse sawtooth hangar used to have a Mossie sitting quietly in the corner.
VH-TOM must be parked in front of where the Perth Flight Centre now stands.? Not sure
Was there this am but didn't get an opportunity to get airside to check, will do so and get back to you.
I do recall the EC135 and you can see the support Starlifter parked behind as part of the Apollo Moon shots, and who can forget the windows and house rattling as they bored over the top on their way out to the middle of the Indian Ocean for Comms.
and I sure it wasn't Graeme Kessel, it'll come to me in a minite.That std DCA type building must have become Ansett Flt Catering, that bigarse sawtooth hangar used to have a Mossie sitting quietly in the corner.
VH-TOM must be parked in front of where the Perth Flight Centre now stands.? Not sure
Was there this am but didn't get an opportunity to get airside to check, will do so and get back to you.
I do recall the EC135 and you can see the support Starlifter parked behind as part of the Apollo Moon shots, and who can forget the windows and house rattling as they bored over the top on their way out to the middle of the Indian Ocean for Comms.
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Everyone, thanks for your top responses. After many years of flying over the old girl, I now know a little of her history. I'll tip my wing next time I go past
I also look forward to the DCA HS-125 incident Philthy.
I also look forward to the DCA HS-125 incident Philthy.
Cracking thread drift here! From QF HS-125's to pictures of an old CFS Baron outside Perth airport in the good old days!
Can't manage to get the picture blown up enough to enhance the pilot's face, but don't forget it might not have been a bloke.
Is it Sue Folks?
Continuing the thread drift, I don't recall the C135s departure from Perth, but I do remember, every Saturday afternoon around 2 pm, when a chap was crewing on a decent racing yacht out of Freshie bay, the SAA 707s departing.
They must have still been below 1500' as they went past the coast, spewing a humongous black cloud ( X 4 ) struggling to climb in the 40+ air, and making a din that still has my ears ringing now, 35 years later!
Happy days!
BSD.
Can't manage to get the picture blown up enough to enhance the pilot's face, but don't forget it might not have been a bloke.
Is it Sue Folks?
Continuing the thread drift, I don't recall the C135s departure from Perth, but I do remember, every Saturday afternoon around 2 pm, when a chap was crewing on a decent racing yacht out of Freshie bay, the SAA 707s departing.
They must have still been below 1500' as they went past the coast, spewing a humongous black cloud ( X 4 ) struggling to climb in the 40+ air, and making a din that still has my ears ringing now, 35 years later!
Happy days!
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Who's driving CFA?
It's not Sue Folks, by April 1971 she and Max, and Alex McDonald were running another company.
I note that the small, metal chocks are in place at the nosewheel, so the aeroplane isn't going anywhere soon. It was common practice to warm the engines, then do the ignition and feather checks before taxying around to the front of the terminal to pick up the punters.
Or, it could be one of the engineers doing a ground run, so perhaps it's one of these chaps - John Parks, Ray Wild, George Jones, Terry Reid, Brian Payne, Peter Hutch, Mick O'Mullane, George blah the Irishman, Lindsay Harbord, Louie Peak, Reg Tutt, Bill Keenan, 2 guys in the propshop, Keith Bergraff and Roger someone, Richard Shorter, Ray Dickenson.
As a matter of interest, probably to nobody, I flew both CFA and ECE in my early days.
I note that the small, metal chocks are in place at the nosewheel, so the aeroplane isn't going anywhere soon. It was common practice to warm the engines, then do the ignition and feather checks before taxying around to the front of the terminal to pick up the punters.
Or, it could be one of the engineers doing a ground run, so perhaps it's one of these chaps - John Parks, Ray Wild, George Jones, Terry Reid, Brian Payne, Peter Hutch, Mick O'Mullane, George blah the Irishman, Lindsay Harbord, Louie Peak, Reg Tutt, Bill Keenan, 2 guys in the propshop, Keith Bergraff and Roger someone, Richard Shorter, Ray Dickenson.
As a matter of interest, probably to nobody, I flew both CFA and ECE in my early days.
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Restoration Prospects
Sorry to divert the thread back to its origin.. Surely an aircraft of this ilk deserves to be treated a little better. I first came across the plane in 1987 on a jaunt to the Oaks to pick up a load of firewood and low and behold a Qantas plane in rather an unusual place. Having now returned to Sydney after 18 years in Qld, I see its still there and in a state of neglect. My recollection of this plane was stirred on by the documentary recently on the return of the first Qantas 707. Subsequent surfing on the net has revealed pictures and a few anecdotes on the aircraft. Surely the HS125 could be put in a hangar or at least covered to protect what remains before hopefully ending up one day in Qantas Museum Longreach or somewhere else worthy. It would appear that the plane is being gutted for parts, but even if she won't fly again, ECE deserves a good home on static display. Peter
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You are absolutely right. Unfortunately the fate of the aeroplane is in the hands of its owner (see post #15). If anyone has his ear, please encourage him to do the right thing before it's too late for anyone to save the aircraft. Pick a museum, any museum. I'm happy to advise.
Regards
You are absolutely right. Unfortunately the fate of the aeroplane is in the hands of its owner (see post #15). If anyone has his ear, please encourage him to do the right thing before it's too late for anyone to save the aircraft. Pick a museum, any museum. I'm happy to advise.
Regards
Folks,
And for a little more:
Who remembers the CAGS on the -125 --- The Central Attention Getting System
I kid you not, that was the name, wot a wunnerful piece of English.
The -125 was the only aeroplane I have flown that weather-cocked out of wind in a crosswind - very disconcerting for pilots who normally flew real aeroplanes.
The Vipers had a disconcerting habit of developing an unrecoverable stall and rundown to a very low RPM, RR said impossible, can't happen, but it did, they took a lot of convincing that those colonials knew anything worth knowing.
The main gear up and down locks were a Heath Robinson nightmare (same bloke designed the electrics) but, Hey! No Problemo! we'll just put a long block of hardwood under a fairing down the guts, and extend a flap hinge either side with a little ski on it, to make a gear-up a non-event.
As DCA proved at Avalon, that didn't work, either.
Tootle pip!!
And for a little more:
Who remembers the CAGS on the -125 --- The Central Attention Getting System
I kid you not, that was the name, wot a wunnerful piece of English.
The -125 was the only aeroplane I have flown that weather-cocked out of wind in a crosswind - very disconcerting for pilots who normally flew real aeroplanes.
The Vipers had a disconcerting habit of developing an unrecoverable stall and rundown to a very low RPM, RR said impossible, can't happen, but it did, they took a lot of convincing that those colonials knew anything worth knowing.
The main gear up and down locks were a Heath Robinson nightmare (same bloke designed the electrics) but, Hey! No Problemo! we'll just put a long block of hardwood under a fairing down the guts, and extend a flap hinge either side with a little ski on it, to make a gear-up a non-event.
As DCA proved at Avalon, that didn't work, either.
Tootle pip!!
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Philthy
As the current owner of CFA it was a great surprise to see a pic of the girl on here. If you or anyone else has any other pics of her I'd love to get a copy.
She is currently (still) undergoing a serious refurbishment, and has been for the last 5 or so years. Progress has been limited by financial constraints but she should (I hope) be flying again later this year.
Sorry for the thread drift!
Thanks,
BSB
She is currently (still) undergoing a serious refurbishment, and has been for the last 5 or so years. Progress has been limited by financial constraints but she should (I hope) be flying again later this year.
Sorry for the thread drift!
Thanks,
BSB
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Yeah I remember her as a racy young girl and the youngsters who used to flirt with her. She could tell you a story or two.
Cameras of the day were pretty expensive as I recall either 35mm SLRs or Box Brownies and not much in between. And you had to wait a week or so to get a bunch of pics back from the developer, more than half of which weren't worth the powder with which to blow em up.
I'd be surprised if you couldn't get find a bucket load, just working out which box in the shed.
Nowadays edit as you go and more than you could look at in three lifetimes.
Went and had another look today, the sawtooth and the low rise building behind are long gone. Back in the 60's the low rise was variously the old international/domestic terminal, the RACWA and Ansett Catering. The saw tooth building if I have it correctly housed variously, RACWA aircraft, Jimmy Woods' Anson for the Rotto run and a DH Mosquito that was purchased for a London to Sydney or the other way Air Race eventually becoming before it was demolished an Ansett?? freight depot??
And somewhre behind the yellow arrow is the Murchison Terminal, but I cant work out what the building to the north is.
Now if the Cocktail Bar of the Orbit Inne could talk, my God what stories it could tell.
Yeah I remember her as a racy young girl and the youngsters who used to flirt with her. She could tell you a story or two.
Cameras of the day were pretty expensive as I recall either 35mm SLRs or Box Brownies and not much in between. And you had to wait a week or so to get a bunch of pics back from the developer, more than half of which weren't worth the powder with which to blow em up.
I'd be surprised if you couldn't get find a bucket load, just working out which box in the shed.
Nowadays edit as you go and more than you could look at in three lifetimes.
Went and had another look today, the sawtooth and the low rise building behind are long gone. Back in the 60's the low rise was variously the old international/domestic terminal, the RACWA and Ansett Catering. The saw tooth building if I have it correctly housed variously, RACWA aircraft, Jimmy Woods' Anson for the Rotto run and a DH Mosquito that was purchased for a London to Sydney or the other way Air Race eventually becoming before it was demolished an Ansett?? freight depot??
And somewhre behind the yellow arrow is the Murchison Terminal, but I cant work out what the building to the north is.
Now if the Cocktail Bar of the Orbit Inne could talk, my God what stories it could tell.