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Old 27th Jul 2006, 05:02
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I read that statistic while looking at the Sandringham Flying boat in the MOTAT museum in Auckland...interesting innit

I guess that is why most people travelled in ships.

The QF FO wages comparison I used because those are numbers I can find out by simply asking my father.

The overall comparison is the same...look at what houses cost across the spectrum 36 years ago and compare that to what people earned across the spectrum and it is clear that wages have lagged seriously behind real inflation.

If you apply 3% average inflation to that 1970 QF FO wage you get pretty close to a current QF FO wage. You cannot do the same with the house or the Bonanza...actually it works bloody close with the original 1970 Bonanza but not the federation house....and certainly not the new Bonanza.

Or put another way that FO wage is now roughly 4 times what it was in 1970 while that house price is now roughly 75 times what it was in 1970.

I very much doubt the numbers would be all that different comparing the average wage in Australia to the average house price in Australia over that same period.
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 08:10
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Yeah Chimbu that's right I did forget to mention that interest rates were high pretty much everywhere during that time, not just here, its cyclical worldwide thing. Oh yeah I dont tend to agree with you I DEFINITELY agree with you that I also hate all politicians!!
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Politicians by their role, not their nature, prove that no one person may be all things to all people - the result is policy by compromise/committee. The peoples representatives end up standing for nothing and falling for everything The effect is paralysis.

Add 3 year terms for good measure, and it is solid proof that things get done in spite of them - not because of them.

I still think Howard rode the coat tails of Keating - but I do have the influence of being around economists and market analysts more often than than right wing idealogues.

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Old 27th Jul 2006, 10:25
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First time on this post

Tinpis, love your photo's and comments. Keep it up.

Have saved the mongrel mob photos to the hard drive. (ages ago)

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Old 27th Jul 2006, 22:30
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Actually AoA, I do remember the high interest rates, not the form of government at the time...
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Old 27th Jul 2006, 23:35
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Some things in the RBA's 'basket' fell in price; not everything went up. But I suspect the things we 'want' to have are the things that went down, and the things we 'need' to have keep going up.

I agree with Vee Won Kutt, I thought most of us had more or less stopped buying bananas? We bought 3 nanas last week - what a guilty pleasure!

One thing to keep in mind about the cost of houses ..... only about 1/3 of households are paying a mortgage. Another thrid rent and the last third own outright. So the cost of houses in the RBA's 'basket' is discounted in terms of its influence on inflation.

Still, it doesn't help this little black duck. Sydney sized mortgage, child care, running 2 petrol fuelled vehicles out of necessity ..... mebbe it's time to lock in our rate too.
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Old 28th Jul 2006, 02:34
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Or put another way that FO wage is now roughly 4 times what it was in 1970 while that house price is now roughly 75 times what it was in 1970.
May be a few factors in that one Chucky.
It was very very hard to borrow money back then.
An FO wage was about $65K in "that" year 1989 and a median house in Darwhine around double that?
Using that as a rule here in Darwhine an FO should be being paid about $400k now?
Fark I think not.
Its the availability of cheap money that has shoved up prices ,kerist I didnt even have one of them new fangled things called a Bankcard in the 70s
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Old 28th Jul 2006, 10:23
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Banks hate losing. Look at ten year fixed rates and heavy equipment lease rates. Interest rates will be hard pushed to go beyond 7.50% in Oz.
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Old 29th Jul 2006, 04:54
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The only point I am making Tin is relative affordability...2x wages as opposed to 20 suggests things are badly out of kilter.
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Banks hate losing. Look at ten year fixed rates and heavy equipment lease rates. Interest rates will be hard pushed to go beyond 7.50% in Oz.
Your right mate! The b anks are much worse than casinos - I believe that statistically the banks come out on top 90% of the time!!! In other words you might win for a year or two but they will get you in the end.
Personally I always stick with variable rates, and for over ten years I have been better off, consistantly paying less than the fixed rates.
I hope this helps anyone who may be about to borrow!
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