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Old 19th Jul 2006, 17:25
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AUS/PNG Flight Crew Wings

I am a collector of civilian flight crew metal wings (pilot, flight engineer, navigator) and I have been trying to pull together a collection of all the flight crew wings ever issued by Australian and PNG airlines since aviation began.

The difficulty I have is that there exists no single, combined reference catalogue that a collector can go to determine what metal breast wings were issued to AUS/PNG flight crew or what they looked like. Therefore, I am seeking assistance from fellow Ppruners (particularly older pilots/FE/navigators) who may be able to assist with the following questions:

1. Which Aus/PNG airlines issued wings
2. What did they look like (any photographs would be ideal)
3. Who manufactured them (eg Stoffels etc)
4. If you have wings, are they available to be photographed
4. Leads to any other collectors who may be able to help with historical information
5. Any other info that may be of value

The short term objective is to combine the information (including photos) into a book with the longer term objective being to use the information in the book to pull together a complete collection of wings.

If anybody can help, please PM me.

Thanks

PS: Woomeri, I am seeking your indulgece here. I recognise that this thread should be listed under the Aviation History and Nostalgia forum but, considering its direct relevance to Aus/PNG aviation, I thought I might get a better response here.
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 01:18
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Ive got a set of Territory Airlines wings circa 1970 ya want a photo of them?
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 02:16
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I got a set of brown wings from PNG circa 1997...Don't know if you want a photo tho...
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 06:43
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I got a set of brown wings from PNG circa 1997
So, who did'nt??
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 09:22
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Territory Airlines had at least three types of pilot wings. Tinnies are the original Territory Airlines. There were (from memory) two types of subsequent TAL wings.

I think Air Niugini had two types in my time in PNG. One was rather large with a big squashed cockroach (least thats what it looked like - probably a styalised Bird of Paradise) in the center. Their cap badges were similar and massive - so heavy their heads drooped forward.

Probably because they were designed by the Kraut GM!

Sharpie would know. He was in PNG before the Dead Sea even became sick!
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 11:46
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!




Hi Torres didn't you have some Talair stuff you were goona scoot my way?

Oh...and that wasn't why our heads leant forward...more to do with the after affects of Room 216 and SP.

Black wings...
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Old 20th Jul 2006, 12:28
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Sorry Chuckie. Forgot!

I have at least couple of dozen sets of copper Talair cuff links and tie pins with the embossed image of Dennis and his pogo stick - strictly surplus stock I can assure you.

Will try to remember to send a set off to you next week.
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Old 21st Jul 2006, 00:28
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Torres:

Thanks for the info re TAL wings. When I manage to get the photos, I might send them to try and identify their historical order if you don't mind.
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 00:47
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When I catch one my kids awake (usually about 4 am) I will get them to show me how to work the camera again
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 06:18
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This any good? .Also got a record of some of the trips they been on





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Old 24th Jul 2006, 06:19
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Shite how ya make it smaller?
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 08:22
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tinpis:

thank you, that's really great. The logbook makes a good background too. What a great idea! I didn't know you were that artistic!

If you see any of these wings for sale in a shop or know of anyone who wants to get rid of one, please let me know asap so that I can procure it. Once again, much appreciated, mate.

CUL

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Old 24th Jul 2006, 15:08
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If you see any of these wings for sale in a shop or know of anyone who wants to get rid of one,
BWAHAHAHAHA

You a funny guy

I have a 17 year old daughter I would sell first
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 18:55
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"I didn't know you were that artistic!"
Tinpis - artistic??

Tinnie - saw one of those entries:

VH-GKX - PIC Captain Seagull - Endorsement.

You're one game dude. I takes me hat orf to ya!!! The hinged rear engine 336 is/was still at Coolangatta but from memory that was GKY.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 01:41
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The hinged rear engine 336 is/was still at Coolangatta but from memory that was GKY.
It was VH CMY the ex Ansett partner of CMW the C185 in the log.
I note GKT the bloody turbo 207 in my log that terrified everyone with its stopping and starting and carrying on.
Finally stopped pinis somewhere near Mendi and was rolled into a ball in a village pilot ok

Wonder if "The Prawn" is still kicking?
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 02:13
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Gees Tinny! did ya get ya wife to fill out the logbook. It's SO neat.
When I had to hand mine in for my command, I'd sat for hours fillin' in the last coupla years worth at the last moment, I got inter trubbel big time.
I'd left the bloody thing open on my desk. It was about a year from the end... lotsa pages following.
During the night, that mongrel bastard of a cat that wouldn't die, jumped up with muddy feet and wandered over it.
Wasn't allowed to kill the thing, "She's old and couldn't help it!!" from the females of the household.
Went on strike.... wasn't cuttin' out ten pages and re-writing them.
Manager of flt training or whatever the neat freak was called, SUMMONED me to his office and almost went hysterical at this sacrelidge.
Seemed to think I'd grabbed the cat rammed it in a puddle and wiped it across me logbook.
Didn't have a sense of humour, when I said I couldnt' do that... not since th' son and me had operated as a team when I bunged the bitch in one of those blue plastic 40 gallon drums of water and the heir to the family fortunes quickly bopped the lid on.
We clamped the lid on and pushed the drum over so it could roll about fifty feet down a steep hill.
Didn't allow for the momentum of about three hundred pounds of water.
The cat washing machine careered across the lawn and into the creek.
Got savagely clawed when we remove the lid to let the washing out.
Needless to say women weren't home and the lad and his dad decided it might be a good thing to treat it as a family secret.
Boy did they get shitty when thirteen years later, as we sat in terible pain with tears rolling down our faces we recalled it while in a less alert state of mind... Bloody duty free booze!
Orrite ...orrite back to the subject, but ya gotta love father n' son bondings dont'cha
Here's mine. The Ansett one isn't PNG... lost them.

PNG ones had a wreath of leaves around the outside of the circle.. similar to the MAL ones.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 04:18
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OOOOoooo.... 60s relic nice ones there mate wouldnt be to many PATAIR and MAL wings left in captivity !
How many times while flying in the weeds and the mud my wings envied your wings cruising along above me in the big shiny DC3 gettin cups of tea served to you by the likes of the loverly Annie Hart and co,and after work trying to get Ute pissed in Madang

The old Ansett ones are neat mate I got a set of the new ones but after '89 they seemed to be handing them out to whoever wanted a set so I doubt they will ever be sought after
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Originally Posted by Chimbu chuckles
I have a 17 year old daughter I would sell first

mmmmmmm really??................
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 05:01
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Thanks sixtiesrelic, much appreciated. The MAL and Patair are ones I don't yet have photos of, so thanks for taking and sending me the photos.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 06:10
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Must be some biscuit ears drivers out there with a set of wings?
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