ANY TIPS FOR QANTAS CADET FLIGHT TESTS?

[morno]

Well said Disco_air, well said. Jetwanker couldn't fly a Baron anyway, his head wouldn't fit through the door.....

Tips for a cadet****, hmmmm... Earn the respect of your fellow aviators and don't do one. Get out into the real world, and do your apprenticeship like 99% of others in aviation do.

Or are you too scared that you can't cut it and you'll piss everyone off??

Morno

[BARON DRIVER]

Good points raised MORNO

However i think we are being abit hard on "Jetwanker", after all the C172 is a very complex aircraft to operate, so Jetwanker should have no trouble doing an ILS in a B744 down to the minimums, with no autopilot, on just two engines?

What you think?

[Towering Q]

Ok Amos2, I'm curious, what is this 'iron ring'? PM me if you don't want jetboy-wannabee to know.

[dutch_oven]

hey morno, if you rearrange your name, it spells moron!! hahaha and disco_air (or disco_stu) find yourself a real aeroplane.

[disco_air]

nah actually i'm quite happy for now.

[jetrider444]

What? Earn respect flying around the bush in a 210 for 15 years? If I can get a job on a 74 why not?

[command]

morno and baron driver sound like they missed out on cadetships and they cant handle it. most of us miss out on cadetships and if given the opportunity to do one would gladly take up the offer. cadets get into cadetships because they meet the profile required and have what it takes, morno and baron driver are obviously the contrary, and are just having a dig at jetrider. good luck to you jet rider let me know how you go

[wdn]

you can sling ****e at morno and baron all you want. its not going to change who the clown, nay, ass clown is in this thread.

command - you wouldn't be trying to make up for your lack of same with your pprune handle would you? another cadet?

[Erin Brockovich]

If I can get a job on a 74 why not?

”IF I can”. That is the smartest thing you have said so far. And that’s a big IF considering all the hoops you still have to jump through.

Mate, remember ‘flies and honey’. The cockpit of your ‘74’ could become a pretty uncomfortable place with the wrong attitude. I think you would have more fun in a 210 than sitting for 12 hours making radio calls. Jetrider do you actually know what a SO does.

Give it a go by all means but take a step back and have a look as to why you’re being ridiculed. The one thing that I am certain of is that nothing is certain.

[Keg]

lol. Keep it up boys. If you get a job in QF, make sure you make your feelings about cadets well known- I'm sure you'll get a receptive audience but I bet you don't have the guts to put up.

Just so you do know your audience, there are a bunch of Level 4 cadets (as the level 2 course was known back then) who joined QF in the late eighties who have had their commands for six or more years- a number of them are now trainers. There are a few cadets from the early '90s cadet courses who have had commands for some time. About 95% of those early '90s cadets are F/Os and have been for up to nine years. You'll enjoy flying with them on the 744, Classic, A380 or A330. Of course, lets not forget the cadets from the early '70s who have been Captains for near on two decades, have years of instructional experience and will probably be the ones that do your training when you join. I'm sure they'd love to hear your theories on why they're less than capable pilots because they didn't spend a couple of years 'apprenticeship' flogging around in a 210!

Whilst Jetrider has an attitude that may see him precluded from getting into a QF cadetship unless he learns to pull his head in, don't think for a second that the alternative attitude espoused by the rest of you clowns puts you in any better position! So good luck boys. Don't forget to make your feelings well known when you join- if you have the guts!

PS: Respect is about the effort you put into the job morno, and how you go about it. Nothing more. I've met great cadets and bad cadets, great RAAFies and bad RAAFies, great GA and crap GA. In all cases, the respect I had for them was based on working with them, not what they had been lucky (or unlucky) enough to have flown prior to joining QF. Clown!

[wdn]

why the gap between the early 70s and late 80s? what happened then?

i agree that people's attitude here doesn't put them into a better position to become cadets. certainly makes them better people than jet dicke though.....

[Keg]

Originally Posted by wdn

i agree that people's attitude here doesn't put them into a better position to become cadets.....

OK, I'll spell it out a little more clearly for those who are overly pedantic or just can't read into my statement what I was trying to say. Try this instead:

...don't think for a second that the alternative attitude espoused by the rest of you clowns puts you in any better position to get a job as a pilot with QF!

To sum it up, respect cuts both ways and those that think they are 'above', more worthy, better, or otherwise better endowed than someone else just because they did or did not get a cadetship are doomed to miss out on the very thing they desire.

Clear enough?

Originally Posted by wdn

why the gap between the early 70s and late 80s? what happened then?

QF didn't run the cadet course- no need to as heaps of suitable applicants out of GA and the military. Military ROSO was only seven or eight years back then. Late eighties and QF And AN and TN) were expanding at a rate that saw them getting 'insufficient suitably qualified and skilled applicants'- hence the re-birth of the QF cadet scheme just prior to the '89 pilots dispute, '90 Gulf War and 'recession we had to have' put the brakes on recruitement. QF had already signed the deal for the cadets so the first eight courses went ahead graduating about 90 candidates. The contract was for 180 which QF finished off by putting through the 'sef-funded' cadets who started in about 97 or 98 from memory.

[Led Zep]

Don't worry gentlemen, I'm sure such a pilot would very quickly be sorted out by the Captains on the Metros, EMB-120s, SAABs, Dashs, etc should they make it and be placed into, "GA" for two years.
Remember, there is no guarantee of a QF job at the end of those two years either, if they don't perform they are out on their arses with maybe 1200hrs Co pilot and 100hrs command? 1200hrs multi crew, multi turbine might sounds nice but operators will view you with suspicion as to having either "jumped the queue" or second rate. Still might end up flying that C210 or 172XP for 15 years, jetrider old chap!

[morno]

Command,
Unfourtanate for you, I never tried, nor wanted to try for the Qantas cadet****.

Having more fun doing what I'm doing, and even have people who I know that have done the cadetship, telling me how they wish they were doing what I'm doing.

Just a thought buddy....

morno

[mourgo]

GOODLUCK

Goodluck jetrider444,

Ignore all these wankers out there. I made it a while ago into the cadetship. It's not about how hard you study or tips from other people. It's all about having a passion for the industry. If you have that passion for aviation then you will get in.

[George_of_the_Bungle]

jetrider,
how are you certain you know where you stuffed up? what if you failed on the actual personality part of of the psych test.? that, by the looks of it is something that you won't be able to 'fix up' very easily....that is to say you even get invited to do the psych test this time....i know a few people who failed the psych test one year and didn't even get past the application stage the next time they applied...

[wateroff]

Contact Dr Sayus,

Tell him you require a frontal lobotomy, to reduce brain that thinks for itself.

[Chris Higgins]

Jetrider,

Good luck in your interview and wherever life takes you in aviation. Hopefully if you really want to fly for QF, the evaluation process will see you as such and give you a go at it.

[Erin Brockovich]

If you have that passion for aviation then you will get in.

Yes, mums’ are supposed to say that. “If you really want it, it will happen”, “follow your heart and the money will come”
The only one I live by is “You are guaranteed to fail if you don’t try” – but not with blind faith. Especially in a recruiting system that is so subjective, contradictive and flawed.

The one thing about life is that when you fail, pick yourself back up and learn from your mistakes – you grow. Unfortunately Qantas won’t give feedback so you will never know. What do you work on to improve for next time? The truth is that the recruiting staff don’t even know how the whole system works.

Ah, the optimistic mind of the never bitten.

[epoxy]

geeesus.... when did everyone get so bitchy and snappy?? let's all relax a bit!!