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Old 28th Mar 2006, 07:43
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Ministers Media Release;Aviation Security Identification Card

Warren Truss
Minister for Transport and Regional Services
Deputy Leader of The Nationals
M E D I A R E L E A S E
Tim Langmead - Media Adviser 02 6277 7680 0418 221 433 [email protected] www.ministers.dotars.gov.au Securing Australia’s Transport Future Media contact: 02 6277 7680 0417 749 711 [email protected] www.ministers.dotars.gov.au DOTARS06/036WT 28 March 2006

Aviation Security Identification Card distribution on track
The Australian Government Minister for Transport and Regional Services, Warren Truss, today said that pilots who had applied to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) before 31 December 2005 for an Aviation Security Identification Card (ASIC), and have been found eligible, can expect to receive their new card before the end of March.

Mr Truss said it is expected that by the end of this week over 10,000 ASIC cards will have been distributed to pilots by CASA.

“The background checking of these 10,000 pilots has been a massive undertaking whichhas involved CASA, the Australian Federal Police, ASIO, the Department of Immigration and my Department,” Mr Truss said. “Other pilots will have ASICs that have been issued by other agencies.”

Mr Truss said CASA was now focused on following up those pilots who had provided incomplete applications. Further background checking of some other applicants is also continuing.

“In this kind of massive security exercise the integrity of personal identification documents which are used as the basis for background checking is vital,” he said. “We simply can not accept a lesser standard of application, nor fail to follow up possible security issues, otherwise we risk undermining the integrity of the entire system. CASA continues to work with pilots to resolve outstanding issues with their applications,” he said.

Mr Truss said it was also of concern that some pilots had not submitted applications at all.

"I remind pilots who require an ASIC and have not applied that they may face a penalty of $550 for each failure to display an ASIC at a security regulated airport. After 31 March 2006, all persons are required to display an ASIC when in the secure area of an airport that has regular public transport services,” Mr Truss said.

Mr Truss said that from 1 April 2006 Transport Security Inspectors will be routinely checking that pilots have their ASICs.

“If a pilot has applied by the 31 December deadline and is eligible to be issued with an ASIC, but due to exceptional circumstances has not received a card, the pilot will receive fair treatment,” Mr Truss said.

Since 1 July 2005 over 72,000 background checks have been processed for participants in the aviation industry. Mr Truss said significant improvements had been made to ASIC processing systems over recent months and cards were now being issued faster than ever before.

“CASA has dedicated additional resources and had been working closely with the security checking agencies to improve the pilot ASIC processing systems,” he said.

Media release from the Hon Warren Truss MP - Minister for Transport and Regional Services Page 2

Mr Truss said pilots who have not yet applied for an ASIC can now make an application through the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA). To find out more details about applying for an ASIC, call 1300 737 032 or log on to the CASA website, www.casa.gov.au.

An ASIC indicates that the holder has been background checked and is eligible to enter a secure area of an airport. The holder of an ASIC does not have an automatic right to access such areas. Access to the secure area of an airport remains at the discretion of the airport operator in accordance with the airport's transport security program. ENDS
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Old 28th Mar 2006, 08:33
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Woomera;

Perhaps you can ask Minister Truss to define a "secure area" of a "security regulated airport"

"After 31 March 2006, all persons are required to display an ASIC when in the secure area of an airport that has regular public transport services,” Mr Truss said".

There were posts elsewhere where it was said one could not even go flying without an ASIC. The way I read it a can of yellow paint and a 6" paintbrush would have saved heaps for a lot of people including me, who doesn't have an immediate need for one, nor has, or want's to have, any business in the secure area of my RPT airport, whatever that may be.
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Finally my ASIC has arrived !!! Now CASA has ripped me off again !!!

Hi all

At last (cutting it very fine to the cut off date) CASA have finally got their act together. I received my ASIC today and I’ve been hearing many others in the Sydney area have also.
Just a query! I have received my ASIC today and paid my fees for a card that is valid for 2 years before paying again to renew again. One would think that it should say March or April 2008 on the card. On my card it sais August 2007 which really means I have been ripped off 7 months. I didn’t even apply for one until the 26th of December 2005. Is it my fault that CASA have been delayed and so backdated the dates on the cards? Are other cards out there in the same situation as me or is my situation unique? Normally I’m not one to moan and complain but this whole ASIC shi*t has pis*sed me off enough and now I’m sick of these people that have created this drama now trying to rip us off

I don’t know how much the ASIC renewal will be every 2 years but lets say it will be $110 for argument sake. This means every month our ASIC will be worth $4.60. Multiply that amount by the amount of months being ripped off (7) and that equals $32.20. Multiply that amount by the some 15,000 registered pilots requiring ASICs (correct me on that figure if I am wrong) and we have almost half a million dollars in CASA'S pocket! Almost $500 000!!!
You tell me...... Is this a genuine mistake or is this yet again another one of CASAs money hungry schemes to f*uck us all over?

Cheers......porter
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Just for clarity of reporting, my ASIC is MAR08. Applied Dec05. So would be interested to see what majority of punters have as expiry dates as opposed to application dates.
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“If a pilot has applied by the 31 December deadline and is eligible to be issued with an ASIC, but due to exceptional circumstances has not received a card, the pilot will receive fair treatment,”
Does anyone know what 'fair treatment' will involve??
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ASIC

I think it was posted in another thread about asic's, that casa were staggering the expiry dates to ensure that the system doesnt bottle neck again in two years time (makes sense) when everyone applies for them again. Understandably some people wont get a full two years this time, but i'd imagine it would be a once off thing.
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Originally Posted by dangodz
I think it was posted in another thread about asic's, that casa were staggering the expiry dates to ensure that the system doesnt bottle neck again in two years time (makes sense) when everyone applies for them again. Understandably some people wont get a full two years this time, but i'd imagine it would be a once off thing.
So why not give 2 years and 6 months instead of 18 and have a lot happier customers (given that under full cost recovery thats what we are!).
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Staggering the expiry dates.

I think you can expect CASA has a plan to either adjust what you pay next time for your ASIC or "credit" you with a few extra months.

I'm sure they are aware of the existence of the Commonwealth Auditor General.
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I find most things about CASA staggering these days!
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Sunfish, putting "CASA" and "plan" together in the same sentence is like using "military intelligence", an "honest politician" or "the honourable member for...". You're giving CASA way too much "credit".

I have no doubt they were told to just do it and they're working it out as they go with the plan coming well behind the implementation.
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Mr Truss said it was also of concern that some pilots had not submitted applications at all
I don't know why he's surprised at that - from the CASA website:
You need a valid ASIC if you need frequent access to a secure area of a security controlled airport that has Regular Public Transport (RPT) operations.
If you don't need frequent access then, from the DOTAR's website, http://www.dotars.gov.au/transsec/aviation/fact13.aspx, you can get a VIC - visitor identification card, supervised access.

Finally,
Holding an ASIC card does not give you a general right of entry into the secure areas of airports. You can only be in a secure area if you have a work-related reason to be there.
Very few private pilots would have a work-related reason so what's the use in getting an ASIC?
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Does anyone know the number for Qantas licencing?

I asked a lady from CLARC and she said that it should be here to me already. Anyway gave me some number but it was not Qantas' number.
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How long will it take?

What do you do if you have been working at a country airfield with no requirement for an ASIC prior to end Feb 2006 and land a job at an airport that you need an asic for? Does this mean you can not start your new job until you are issued with an asic? Is part of applying for a position now to include holding an asic? How long wo0uld you have to wait for the asic to appear? .........just wondering.........
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So, has anyone got a definition of what "frequent access" means? If I fly from Bacchus Marsh to Mildura say three times a year do I need an ASIC or will a "VIC" do?
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OK, I am the owner of an AUS ASIC through work.

I want to fly a 172 around WA on my honeymoon with the mrs to be. Can I use my AUS ASIC to get fuel in Halls Creek etc?
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The DOTARS website has a link to the Aviation Security Regulations - a quick look through this would answer many of the questions being asked here...
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Thumbs down Thumbs down to Qantas

Originally Posted by Altimeters
Does anyone know the number for Qantas licencing?

I asked a lady from CLARC and she said that it should be here to me already. Anyway gave me some number but it was not Qantas' number.
I've got a number for a useless Qantas staff member who is supposed to be overseeing the licencing. However, he hasn't answered his phone during the past three weeks, nor has he returned any messages I've left for him. Time for a little payback - everyone, his number is 02 9691 1272. Hopefully he can help someone out.

Also, why's it taking so long for Qantas to print and distribute the licences?
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I just want my bloody ASIC!

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The DOTARS website has a link to the Aviation Security Regulations - a quick look through this would answer many of the questions being asked here...
I have had a read through the Aviation Transport Security Regulations and I cannot find anything that deals with use of a work issued ASIC for private flying.

A fact sheet (exactly what is says, and that is not law) states:
Holding an ASIC card does not give you a general right of entry into the secure areas of airports. You can only be in a secure area if you have a work-related reason to be there.
That still does not answer the question entirely.

What happens when I turn up at Halls Creek 90 mins before the RPT service arrives and want to go to and from the "terminal", possibly with shopping including bottles of wine and a replacement corkscrew for the one that broke in our esky in the back?
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Tonight I got the call from CASA informing me that my ASIC is at the Group 4 office at the Qantas domestic terminal.I've had to dig into the coin jar for the parking, so hopefully all goes well.
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