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Old 20th Mar 2006, 02:59
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Sale would be a nice long term posting I think (although I dare say in the military not many would agree). Would love to buy a few hundred acres out there and live. Although I'll never ask to go there with the current aircraft that they have at RAAF East Sale

Ringers... ha.... I still remember the feeling of walking in and the music stopping and everyone looking at me and my mates... (as the American Western style movie swinging doors creeked in the background).
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 03:03
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Well I heard on good authority on a very professional website that they are currently operating a fleet of 12 Hornets out of Sale

True you are though; unless you wanna drive a PC9 there ain't much else. There was a few Super Kingairs around, but since the 748's left, aircraft are almost few and far between at the moment.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 03:06
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Don't want to fly the KingAir...

You only go to Sale to do instructor course.. then Tamworth or Pearce... you can get back years later to be an instructor of instructors , but I don't want to instruct. I don't even like explaining things to the copilot
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 04:31
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Originally Posted by victor two
If they were not patrolling Melbourne then they would just be flying mindlessly up and down the coast off NSW doing some other "specialist training" that actually will never be required in combat in the real world.
I'm not a RAAFie so I'm not 100% sure on this but I don't think they went to Iraq a few years back to play tiddly-winks!

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I don't even like explaining things to the copilot
From what you were saying previously PAFie, that isn't even a problem at the moment is it or has Fort Fumble changed in recent times to now include co-pilots in the mix?
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 04:34
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I'm starting to get confused about exactly what ships we have here at present. I thought it was two Anzac class, then I saw the Melbourne (Oliver Hazard Perry class).

Wednesday night one of them was off Brighton where it could nail anything coming from Moorabbin, one was at Station pier and one ?????

Sailing on saturday I encountered an Anzac class anchored off Portarlington with a fine view of Avalon and to the North, mit search radar rotating. I could have sworn there was still one at Station Pier. Then there is a minesweeper anchored in the Yarra. Don't know where the Navy dive boat went.

Brain getting tired. Perhaps after the games someone will write about the command and control procedure and what was really deployed and why.........or perhaps not.

This is definitely not a jolly for some bored defence types. Same for the police. Hope you guys have a good party afterwards.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 06:29
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Originally Posted by victor two
If they were not patrolling Melbourne then they would just be flying mindlessly up and down the coast off NSW doing some other "specialist training" that actually will never be required in combat in the real world.
See http://www.defence.gov.au/opfalconer...403/160403.htm So how shall you eat your words, heated or not?
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 07:00
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I'm not a RAAFie so I'm not 100% sure on this but I don't think they went to Iraq a few years back to play tiddly-winks!
Exactly. The guys did what they were paid for.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:15
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The guys did what they were paid for.
Well not exactly. The yanks wanted certain things converted into rubble and on several occasions "the boys" refused. They haven't had the chance to make up for it since.

It was the yanks' show and the aussies knocked back what any good ol' boy from stateside would happily have done. The media here attempted to make something out of it at the time, but failed dismally because no one cared.

That pic of the hornets over Melbourne shows a p!ss-weak break. Why isn't she bending it at 90degrees like a real man would???
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:20
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I don't see what Australia employing stricter ROE than the yanks has to do with whether the boys did what they were paid for or not.

Also, I certainly don't think any of the guys feel the need to "make up for" anything either.

Bit of a pointless post from Lord Snot really...
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:20
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It just adds to the shite that Lord Snot has posted in this topic.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:22
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Originally Posted by Lord Snot
Well not exactly. The yanks wanted certain things converted into rubble and on several occasions "the boys" refused. They haven't had the chance to make up for it since.

And I'd say that the benefactors from the CAS missions that the hornets flew over Iraq would argue that.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Lord Snot
Well not exactly. The yanks wanted certain things converted into rubble and on several occasions "the boys" refused. They haven't had the chance to make up for it since.
It was the yanks' show and the aussies knocked back what any good ol' boy from stateside would happily have done. The media here attempted to make something out of it at the time, but failed dismally because no one cared.
That pic of the hornets over Melbourne shows a p!ss-weak break. Why isn't she bending it at 90degrees like a real man would???
Take it from me weed brain (and I am authorised to talk on the topic), you'd have ZERO aptitude required to fly a Hornet and I'd enjoy crushing you along the way...you would be weeded out and back infront of your PC within seconds. Your cyberspace perception of reality is nothing short of a joke.

Trust me, flying your 1G super stressful armchair is just like the real thing

Oh, in the real world when your panties bunch up, you can't turn your modem off or resporn on your game.

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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:35
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Originally Posted by king oath
Hornets flying circles over Melbourne! Hey I'm frightened, I bet those nasty terrorists are quaking in their shoes.
The greatest over kill of all time.
Really? Your small naive mind is the real greatest worry. It only takes some nutbag with a small light aircraft to fly into a 90,000 packed MCG to make a real statement. But that's HIGHLY improbable.

With Australia's involvement on the world stage in recent years, there are plenty of goups with chips on their shoulders

OK, so king oath is "king" for a day and has made an "oath" to protect his 20,000,000+ people. What's your preventitive security plan to the potential here?

You were obviously never a good boy scout!..........Be Prepared.

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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:39
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Originally Posted by WeekendWorrier
Pfffft...I wouldn't believe that for one minute. This is the commonwealth games we're talking about - no one gives a flying turd about it. This is about public service arse-covering and defence egos playing with their big toys. It's a rare chance for them to carry on in a self-important manner and justifiably push everyone else around.
I'm tipping that within a day or so of the games ending there will be "alarming revelations", "leaked" to the media about how close it got to disaster, and how a serious threat to the games (opening ceremony/closing ceremony/insert event here) was averted only through the extensive security blanket....blah blah blah, in order to justify the ridiculously extraordinary amount of money spent on security. Back-patting all around, well done chaps, etc etc.
Another "really"!?

Hmmm.......Commonwealth Games = Worldwide coverage.

There's a term called "economy of effort". ie: Large bang for a small buck. Tell me what better forum there is at the moment for the "bad guys" to wave a terrorist flag at?

When will you guys get with the program!
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 09:41
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[QUOTE=Pass-A-Frozo] Although I'll never ask to go there with the current aircraft that they have at RAAF East Sale [QUOTE]

And just what's so wrong with the mighty CT-4
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 11:58
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And just what's so wrong with the mighty CT-4
Did you just answer your own question?
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 12:21
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It amazes me how I posted on PPRuNe like 6 months ? ago when I was able to fly my light aircraft overhead the MCG within 1 minute of the final goal of the AFL Grand Final when conducting some city orbits... and NOBODY cared! I was literally watching ground play from the big screen on the western wall from 1,500ft!

I barely got a response and the only comments were that I must be a terrorist if I was thinking about that stuff. Now we have a few international visitors and the lives of 90,000+ people become a whole lot more important. Beats the hell out of me why they didn't do the same thing for the GF.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 19:51
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Squawk. from the amount of security work that has been done, starting last September, the threats have been judged as credible. Some real money has been spent by both State and Federal Governments, and the cooperation between police and the defence force is something to see. I'm not sure what the hourly rate for a Blackhawk is, but they have been using up plenty of hours in the training.

The bit that surprised me last Wednesday was seeing "defence in depth", its not just the F18's, there are layers of defence to stop your hypothetical light aircraft flying into the MCG or anything else going bang somewhere in Melbourne.

It doesn't "matter" if you fly into a packed MCG on Grand Final day because its a purely local matter unless you happen to be a muslim, in which case you are the latest terrorist martyr in the "war on terror", and are hence newsworthy.

Anyway if you did, and only killed Collingwood supporters, no one would care.
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 21:50
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Yes yes yes children, I am aware that we sent a few jets to iraq. However, what they actually achieved while they were there and the real value of their presence remains a mystery. Iraq then was a bit like Melbourne now really. Go along.....be seen .......but don't really do much.

There is a slight difference in being at the grand final and kicking six goals as opposed to sitting on the reserve bench watching someone else play.

Get the idea?
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Old 21st Mar 2006, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
It amazes me how I posted on PPRuNe like 6 months ? ago when I was able to fly my light aircraft overhead the MCG within 1 minute of the final goal of the AFL Grand Final when conducting some city orbits... and NOBODY cared! I was literally watching ground play from the big screen on the western wall from 1,500ft!
I barely got a response and the only comments were that I must be a terrorist if I was thinking about that stuff. Now we have a few international visitors and the lives of 90,000+ people become a whole lot more important. Beats the hell out of me why they didn't do the same thing for the GF.
A terrorist wouldn't embarass himself by attacking an AFL event.
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