Seaplane Crash-lands in Tassie Lake
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From the SMH:
Mr Pearce said he was hovering near Frenchman's Cap....when he struck trouble.
Kevin Pearce, of Strahan in Tasmania's wilderness, said he had five minutes to manoeuvre the single-engine aircraft to safety after a warning light flashed on the control panel.
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tinpis You don't know what you're talking about.
Twice ... both partial , both PT-6 and single engine.
Daytime thank gawd , but in some mongrel PNG real estate.
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Tin might not know what he's talking about (wanna bet). What's tin talking about...
Who's tin talking about...
Tin sounds ******* when he talks about himself in that ****-person style.
Snot also had a PT6 poop itself(I find that difficult to believe), by the way. SNot fun when there is snot a second donk to get you home. Got a re-light (this woomera is thinking of the ways a PT6 can fail and the limited possibilities for a re-light) before Snot had to dead-stick it or step out. (He is also thinking back to his days dropping meatbombs and the reaction of his boss to 'stepping out' of the beat up old C182 for anything less than wing seperation)
A real man(one with chest hair and a deep voice?) straps in again even after having a flame-out in a SE kite. Real men aren't afraid(they are you know...dumb ones aren't)
Is it school holidays...LS you're not really W Mitty by any chance?
Ethereal Woomera
Who's tin talking about...
Tin sounds ******* when he talks about himself in that ****-person style.
Snot also had a PT6 poop itself(I find that difficult to believe), by the way. SNot fun when there is snot a second donk to get you home. Got a re-light (this woomera is thinking of the ways a PT6 can fail and the limited possibilities for a re-light) before Snot had to dead-stick it or step out. (He is also thinking back to his days dropping meatbombs and the reaction of his boss to 'stepping out' of the beat up old C182 for anything less than wing seperation)
A real man(one with chest hair and a deep voice?) straps in again even after having a flame-out in a SE kite. Real men aren't afraid(they are you know...dumb ones aren't)
Is it school holidays...LS you're not really W Mitty by any chance?
Ethereal Woomera
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And there's the problem, I know both tin and Harvey and I know they both know what they are talking about, and they are both right.
'Cept I don't think they are talking about quite the same thing.
Gets popcorn, drags up chair and watches.
'Cept I don't think they are talking about quite the same thing.
Gets popcorn, drags up chair and watches.
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Tin is confused
Harvey it is better to have 2 pilots in a single engine turbine powered aircraft that has had a power failure than one pilot in a twin engine plane with one failed?
Lemmee see...1+1=2 hmmm...1 - 1 = 0 ....er..2-1=1
Nah
Harvey it is better to have 2 pilots in a single engine turbine powered aircraft that has had a power failure than one pilot in a twin engine plane with one failed?
Lemmee see...1+1=2 hmmm...1 - 1 = 0 ....er..2-1=1
Nah
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That's because Tin can't work out who he's talking about.
Tin's obviously been out in the heat again without his terry-towelling hat. He thinks he's "Drapes...."
Tin's obviously been out in the heat again without his terry-towelling hat. He thinks he's "Drapes...."
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rmcdonal.....do the math!!! does it really matter....26 mins,10 mins ......as soon as you rotate???who cares....look at the end result....anything in between the part when it went bad to the outcome is meaningless....no cameras,no FDR,no Black Box.....
Tinpis....right on the money mate!!!!!....waitangi day was/is great....people are trying to invent culture,we already have it.....PB
Tinpis....right on the money mate!!!!!....waitangi day was/is great....people are trying to invent culture,we already have it.....PB
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In the SMH.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...074115982.html
and another one same sort of lines
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=85450
Still sounds like the flash was the fuel warning light!
Love to know what really happened!!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...074115982.html
and another one same sort of lines
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=85450
Still sounds like the flash was the fuel warning light!
Love to know what really happened!!
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All of the above makes great reading. 26 mins @ say 800 ft/min (feathered) into a lake in Tas. Sh1t!!!!! some Caravan. Where do I buy one? Watch out for the dreaded press errors folks, there is nothing worse than to be feed on bull ****. REMEMBER everybody walked away.
IF THE NUMBER OF LANDINGS ARE EQUAL TO THE NUMBER OF TAKE-OFFS ONE CAN SLEEP ON THE NIGHT AND TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY.
However I feel that beer or better may be appropriate. Yr. comments K.
IF THE NUMBER OF LANDINGS ARE EQUAL TO THE NUMBER OF TAKE-OFFS ONE CAN SLEEP ON THE NIGHT AND TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY.
However I feel that beer or better may be appropriate. Yr. comments K.
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No Doubt it was VH-KLP... registered that after Kevin and Lisa Pearce (not surprisingly), the owner(s).
The aircraft was operated in WA not long ago and does so most other years at the Horizontal Falls, by none-other than Kevin himself; no cross-hire arrangement there; it's purely a seasonal thing, up in WA for the dry season and in Tassie for the wet season, which just happens to be summer down there; the only real time that anyone could tolerate the god-forsaken weather down there.
I remember looking closely at it and it had a god-awful paint job, where for example they used a piece of paper and tape so that the rego didn't get painted over during the respray... perhaps a sign of something more cinister...??? or you can't judge a book by it's cover????
Oh, and it's the 208, not the 208B, so only a small-fry.... perhaps that's how it gets it's remarkable glide ratio.
The aircraft was operated in WA not long ago and does so most other years at the Horizontal Falls, by none-other than Kevin himself; no cross-hire arrangement there; it's purely a seasonal thing, up in WA for the dry season and in Tassie for the wet season, which just happens to be summer down there; the only real time that anyone could tolerate the god-forsaken weather down there.
I remember looking closely at it and it had a god-awful paint job, where for example they used a piece of paper and tape so that the rego didn't get painted over during the respray... perhaps a sign of something more cinister...??? or you can't judge a book by it's cover????
Oh, and it's the 208, not the 208B, so only a small-fry.... perhaps that's how it gets it's remarkable glide ratio.
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If the moderators will permit a little facetiousness, and risking the thread getting off topic, there indeed once was a Cessna that hovered - it was called the CH-1 (CH presumably for Cessna Helicopter) - looked a bit like a 150 with a rotor.......circa 1955-1961 - none left now I believe.
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Gentlemen - really...
I had an "īncident" once, and when it happened, all someone could do is write it in this forum and tell the whole world. As "they" say, there are pilots that have done it and others that haven't done it yet. I think most pilots that have had an incident, leave there opinions at home, the others, well, just looks at most of these mere opinions...
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rmcdonal. We have that post in a safe place........... 
It was not a matter of whether there was facts to back up the post, rather it was not appropriate it remain on public view.
Harvey. Yeah, I guess the CH-1/YH-41 "Seneca" does look a little like a C150!!
But did you know there was also a Cessna 620 - and it wasn't a pair of 310's strapped together!!
Woomera
It was not a matter of whether there was facts to back up the post, rather it was not appropriate it remain on public view.Harvey. Yeah, I guess the CH-1/YH-41 "Seneca" does look a little like a C150!!
But did you know there was also a Cessna 620 - and it wasn't a pair of 310's strapped together!!
Woomera
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Tin's obviously been out in the heat again without his terry-towelling hat. He thinks he's "Drapes...."
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Bwahahaha. its almost believable, tins.
lets see.........26 minutes at say 500fpm. I get 13000 ft. probably 1000fpm with the wiplines dangling out there, and highly unlikely it was FL260, would point to either partial power loss or a fuel light. I would hazard fuel or oil light or chip detector light to get 26 more mins out there. pretty rare for a partial in the turbs.
Now as this was a 208 and not the 208B with 114a, that would make it 75horses lighter, so maybe the glide ratio was improved without the extra 75 horses being dead weight.
I guess we will all know when the report comes out.
lets see.........26 minutes at say 500fpm. I get 13000 ft. probably 1000fpm with the wiplines dangling out there, and highly unlikely it was FL260, would point to either partial power loss or a fuel light. I would hazard fuel or oil light or chip detector light to get 26 more mins out there. pretty rare for a partial in the turbs.
Now as this was a 208 and not the 208B with 114a, that would make it 75horses lighter, so maybe the glide ratio was improved without the extra 75 horses being dead weight.
I guess we will all know when the report comes out.
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Realistically speaking you can get about 450 ft/min on floats in the glide, feathered and all. the do glide great, but that still puts him up at 11,000.
Maybe it was from when the light when on. so 21 mintues of glide, that's about 9,000. But I guess the reality is that it "seemed" like 26 minutes, whic could put him at any height!
Still why weren't the passengers told?
Woomera what happened to the long thread about this operator? I have looked into it further and alot of it was fact
Maybe it was from when the light when on. so 21 mintues of glide, that's about 9,000. But I guess the reality is that it "seemed" like 26 minutes, whic could put him at any height!
Still why weren't the passengers told?
Woomera what happened to the long thread about this operator? I have looked into it further and alot of it was fact