Air Force VS Self Experience??
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Air Force VS Self Experience??
Howdy,
Im now at the 'Point' of my life where i need to decide what to do.
First of all i have been told by a recruitment officer from ADFA that i would have more chance getting into the NZ Air Force as i was born in NZ and Have lived in NZ up to 3 years ago and that the Australia AF prefers australian born people. How true that is i dont know.
I dont know if i would want to be in the airforce but the traing gets paid for and you get great experience and may even get to kill a few people while your at it
On the other hand, Do all the training my self get a charter gig work up here for a few years before applying to the majors like QF, DJ, JQ etc.
-What do the Airlines prefer, you paying for it yourself and working your ass off or being in the airforce having it all paid for you?
-What hours does one require to be looked at by DJ and JQ?
-Would a type rating help? 737, A320, 787
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There are different senarios that i have played around with:
Becoming a F/A then im in an airline and may be easier, what the chances of becoming a pilot in this situation? (i am in customer service currentley)
Going to NZ and flying there for a couple of years out of DUD and then applying for the link airlines, mt cook, eagle, air nelson etc.
Im not going to bother trying to go for a cadetship, because there is absolutley no way that i would get one of them becasue my education doesnt meet their requirements.
I hope someone can answer these questions as it would help a great deal then i can hopefully know where im better off.
Thanks in advance,
Im now at the 'Point' of my life where i need to decide what to do.
First of all i have been told by a recruitment officer from ADFA that i would have more chance getting into the NZ Air Force as i was born in NZ and Have lived in NZ up to 3 years ago and that the Australia AF prefers australian born people. How true that is i dont know.
I dont know if i would want to be in the airforce but the traing gets paid for and you get great experience and may even get to kill a few people while your at it
On the other hand, Do all the training my self get a charter gig work up here for a few years before applying to the majors like QF, DJ, JQ etc.
-What do the Airlines prefer, you paying for it yourself and working your ass off or being in the airforce having it all paid for you?
-What hours does one require to be looked at by DJ and JQ?
-Would a type rating help? 737, A320, 787
?There are different senarios that i have played around with:
Becoming a F/A then im in an airline and may be easier, what the chances of becoming a pilot in this situation? (i am in customer service currentley)
Going to NZ and flying there for a couple of years out of DUD and then applying for the link airlines, mt cook, eagle, air nelson etc.
Im not going to bother trying to go for a cadetship, because there is absolutley no way that i would get one of them becasue my education doesnt meet their requirements.
I hope someone can answer these questions as it would help a great deal then i can hopefully know where im better off.
Thanks in advance,
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Yes stay in Auts if you want to kill because the kiwi AF don't have anything that shoots anymore. Helen Ork sold them all for a 757 and a VIP Aztec.
Re: Air Force VS Self Experience??
What do you want to do, fly or pull ya pud????
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You should not be anywhere near an airplane, except maybe in the role you mentioned, of sandwich-maker.
You appear to have no clue about why anyone ever decides to become a pilate.
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What do you want to do, fly or pull ya pud????
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You should not be anywhere near an airplane, except maybe in the role you mentioned, of sandwich-maker.
You appear to have no clue about why anyone ever decides to become a pilate.
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Originally Posted by pilotdude09
Im not going to bother trying to go for a cadetship, because there is absolutley no way that i would get one of them becasue my education doesnt meet their requirements.
Go join the French Foreign Legion, I hear they kill heaps of people.
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Your Callsign says it all - you wouldn't last ten minutes in any of the Armed Services I'm familiar with - my advice to you would be to stay well away from aviation!
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Mate, you've got a LOT of growing up to do before my Air Force would want to recruit someone with your attitude to fly mutli-million dollar pieces of hardware.
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What do you want to do, fly or pull ya pud????
What do you want to do, fly or pull ya pud????
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Captain Sand got it in one. You definitely need a reality check. If you don't have the education to apply for a cadetship, there is no way you will pass all the entry exams into the air force. As for being an F/A-18 pilot that requires dedication, quick reflexes, 3D problem solving and the list just goes on. Not to mention the F/A-18 is about as complex as a 737.
It sounds as if you are trying to make this decision without finding out a lot about each path. My advice, talk top the guys at your local flying school, go for an introduction flight with them, ask the air force reps about the application procedure and the flight screening. The more people you talk to the better.
All the best
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It sounds as if you are trying to make this decision without finding out a lot about each path. My advice, talk top the guys at your local flying school, go for an introduction flight with them, ask the air force reps about the application procedure and the flight screening. The more people you talk to the better.
All the best
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Originally Posted by pilotdude09
i have been told by a recruitment officer from ADFA that i would have more chance getting into the NZ Air Force as i was born in NZ and Have lived in NZ up to 3 years ago and that the Australia AF prefers australian born people. How true that is i dont know.
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First of all i have been told by a recruitment officer from ADFA that i would have more chance getting into the NZ Air Force as i was born in NZ and Have lived in NZ up to 3 years ago and that the Australia AF prefers australian born people. How true that is i dont know.
is this true? i applied to the airforce/army and navy a while a go and was rejected. i'm still not sure why, i know i meet the education (im an aeronautical engineer) and fitness/medical requirements.Could part of the rejection have been based on the fact that i was born in the United States?
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More likely that although you met the requirements, there were other applicants who were better.
To the OP, there is no point joining the Air Force just to improve your chances with the airlines. You need to join because that is what you want to do. And I think you'll find that you don't really need to make a choice, just apply for the RNZAF or the RAAF and they'll make the choice for you.
Airlines don't care where you learnt to fly as long as you meet their minimum requirements.
To the OP, there is no point joining the Air Force just to improve your chances with the airlines. You need to join because that is what you want to do. And I think you'll find that you don't really need to make a choice, just apply for the RNZAF or the RAAF and they'll make the choice for you.
Airlines don't care where you learnt to fly as long as you meet their minimum requirements.
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There is no easy way in this industry. Do the training, do your time in GA then do your time in some airline interviews. The Air Force doesn't sound like the way for you - you join the Air Force if you want to be an Air Force pilot, not a airline pilot.
Some time in GA may get you back to reality and actually quicker to the airlines (10.5 years as AMF quoted is a long time in the Air Force). By the time you get out you be approaching 30, the airlines like to be able to groom you from as early as possible.
>>What hours does one require to be looked at by DJ and JQ?<<
You'll need to do more research, but on Virgin's website in the past they've needed over 1000 hours command as well as multi-engine time.
>>Would a type rating help? 737, A320, 787?<<
May do, you sound like you've got a fair bit of disposable income so why not? It's bit different to flight sim though.
Some time in GA may get you back to reality and actually quicker to the airlines (10.5 years as AMF quoted is a long time in the Air Force). By the time you get out you be approaching 30, the airlines like to be able to groom you from as early as possible.
>>What hours does one require to be looked at by DJ and JQ?<<
You'll need to do more research, but on Virgin's website in the past they've needed over 1000 hours command as well as multi-engine time.
>>Would a type rating help? 737, A320, 787?<<
May do, you sound like you've got a fair bit of disposable income so why not? It's bit different to flight sim though.
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i dont really want to join the airforce anyway, i just wanted to see if the airlines prefered that over doing it your self.
Im already training at my flying school with a few hours under my belt, going to get my private licence in september. My education is correct to get into qantas but then you have all the private school students that have gone to the best schools etc and i think they will look at them over a public school student or maybe not all i can do is apply.
Lord Snot:
Yes stay in Auts if you want to kill because the kiwi AF don't have anything that shoots anymore
No i dont want to kill people, you obviously dont understand sarcasm
Im already training at my flying school with a few hours under my belt, going to get my private licence in september. My education is correct to get into qantas but then you have all the private school students that have gone to the best schools etc and i think they will look at them over a public school student or maybe not all i can do is apply.
Lord Snot:
Yes stay in Auts if you want to kill because the kiwi AF don't have anything that shoots anymore
No i dont want to kill people, you obviously dont understand sarcasm
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This may be getting off the topic, but private school kids have no advantage over public school kids. Just study hard in school (a pass is a pass no matter where you go to school) and put 100% into your flying.
If you're serious about getting to the airlines, don't get a long-term girlfriend until you find someone who is prepared to move around the country with you. Then when you're captain for Qantas some hostie while abroad will no doubt take your fancy, unless you're already divorced. Hmmm...off topic again.
If you're serious about getting to the airlines, don't get a long-term girlfriend until you find someone who is prepared to move around the country with you. Then when you're captain for Qantas some hostie while abroad will no doubt take your fancy, unless you're already divorced. Hmmm...off topic again.
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Don't be too hard on the lad over the "kill people" comment. No doubt said in jest.
As for Air Force, if you ask HI'er it's a sheltered workshop and the easy life so he'd say Air Force.
Seriously though, you'll do some great flying you won't get to do in civvie land regardless of what aircraft you go to off pilots course. But don't tell recruiting you want an airline job, and only tell them you want to go hornets or they won't want you.
The flying is great fun, and you'll enjoy it. You'll find what you want now is very different to what you want at 35 anyway.
Air Force = no bill and you get a million or so training whilst getting paid (or whatever the amount is up to).
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As for Air Force, if you ask HI'er it's a sheltered workshop and the easy life so he'd say Air Force.
Seriously though, you'll do some great flying you won't get to do in civvie land regardless of what aircraft you go to off pilots course. But don't tell recruiting you want an airline job, and only tell them you want to go hornets or they won't want you.
The flying is great fun, and you'll enjoy it. You'll find what you want now is very different to what you want at 35 anyway.
Air Force = no bill and you get a million or so training whilst getting paid (or whatever the amount is up to).
G'day Aussie
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You are having a lend of us aren't you PilotDude??
Their is no way in heavan U have a grade 12 edcation. Sum of youre stuff just dosn't make sence.
"or maybe not all i can do is apply" What the heck does that mean?
You are going to have to do better than that.
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Their is no way in heavan U have a grade 12 edcation. Sum of youre stuff just dosn't make sence.
"or maybe not all i can do is apply" What the heck does that mean?
You are going to have to do better than that.
TBT