Merged: New CASA Charges For Pilots
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Hi All,
Just booked my next flight medical & was told by the staff that CASA medical has added a further $130 "processing fee" on top of the $130 that I have to pay the DAME to actually do it!!
How the hell do these things slip past us un-noticed? Or have I had my head in the clouds too much lately???
Anyone else had this???
KB
Just booked my next flight medical & was told by the staff that CASA medical has added a further $130 "processing fee" on top of the $130 that I have to pay the DAME to actually do it!!
How the hell do these things slip past us un-noticed? Or have I had my head in the clouds too much lately???
Anyone else had this???
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Re: New Charges for flight crew medicals?
Gee they snuck that one in, It's a real kick in the pants for pilots.
I assume that this will affect air traffic controllers as well.
Where are you on this one AOPA - Civil Air ?
where are you Dick and Boyd QUI PROCURANTUR PROCURANDI - One must represent those one claims to represent Isn't that your motto ?
I assume that this will affect air traffic controllers as well.
Where are you on this one AOPA - Civil Air ?
where are you Dick and Boyd QUI PROCURANTUR PROCURANDI - One must represent those one claims to represent Isn't that your motto ?
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Re: New Charges for flight crew medicals?
Originally Posted by Aerodynamisist
Gee they snuck that one in, It's a real kick in the pants for pilots.
I assume that this will affect air traffic controllers as well.
Where are you on this one AOPA - Civil Air ?
where are you Dick and Boyd QUI PROCURANTUR PROCURANDI - One must represent those one claims to represent Isn't that your motto ?
I assume that this will affect air traffic controllers as well.
Where are you on this one AOPA - Civil Air ?
where are you Dick and Boyd QUI PROCURANTUR PROCURANDI - One must represent those one claims to represent Isn't that your motto ?
Quite a few months ago they asked for comments.
(whaddya mean you have better things to do than to monitor the CASA/Dotars/Airservices websites every hour to see what affects you... its' up to you to keep up to date with everything they decree.
)See thread http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=194738 for the start of it all.
Then on 16-Dec-05 they announced the new fees, effective 1-Jan-06.
see thread http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202796
The new fees are at http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/fees.htm
Not much is 'free' anymore and there's more to come.
Not being a member, I haven't seen much that AOPA has/is doing about these CASA fees.
there ya go Bob., another opportunity to bash AOPA
Re: New Charges for flight crew medicals?
Its all part of that new cost recovery thingy.
The CASA website has a whole page on the new costs.
I wonder what CASA actualy has to do to send you a medical? If the doc passes you don't they just type it up and send it??
Easyest $130 ever.
The CASA website has a whole page on the new costs.
I wonder what CASA actualy has to do to send you a medical? If the doc passes you don't they just type it up and send it??
Easyest $130 ever.
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Re: New Charges for flight crew medicals?
Hey Biggles;
I don't bash AOPA, I bash the ruling and illegal, elite "executive" who have marginalised the rest of the board and making policy on the run. This is the second recent crew to do this and configured once again around an individual who couldn't give a rat's about the members on or off the board.
They ARE in fact doing something about the AVMED on their own site that will enthrall the rank and file, but I fear it will come down to doing another "deal" and like the ASIC, they would be better doing nothing.
I sincerely wish them well in their endeavours however.
Are you or I due to shout each other a beer or something?
I don't bash AOPA, I bash the ruling and illegal, elite "executive" who have marginalised the rest of the board and making policy on the run. This is the second recent crew to do this and configured once again around an individual who couldn't give a rat's about the members on or off the board.
They ARE in fact doing something about the AVMED on their own site that will enthrall the rank and file, but I fear it will come down to doing another "deal" and like the ASIC, they would be better doing nothing.
I sincerely wish them well in their endeavours however.
Are you or I due to shout each other a beer or something?
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Casa charging for Medical
Completed a Class 1 Aviation Medical yesterday and was told by the doctor that CASA are now charging a $130- processing fee to be paid on top off the normal medical expense. He said that Casa had told doctors that all license holders had been advised of this new cost however it was the first I had heard of it. Anyone heard or know anything about this ?
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I haven't been informed of it either. Friggen great. $120 for the medical and $130 for CASA. $250 for a medical every twelve months. friggen Pathetic.
Add that to the stupid and pointless ASIC card and the pathetic photo licence and all the security checks. A pilot in GA will have to earn twice the going hourly rate just to stay in the job.Add the fuel price rise, the overcharging pricks that own the airport charges, the tower cost, the theiving maintanance and parts shops and then pass it all onto the customer and they will be paying $600 for an hours joyflight in a 172. Yeah, thats going to become a sustainable industry for all. there are costs I haven't mentioned but will surely add to the expense. watch the pilots get screwed on wages further as people try to cut costs to stay in business.
looks like CASA may just get thier wish and get rid of GA in the near future.
Add that to the stupid and pointless ASIC card and the pathetic photo licence and all the security checks. A pilot in GA will have to earn twice the going hourly rate just to stay in the job.Add the fuel price rise, the overcharging pricks that own the airport charges, the tower cost, the theiving maintanance and parts shops and then pass it all onto the customer and they will be paying $600 for an hours joyflight in a 172. Yeah, thats going to become a sustainable industry for all. there are costs I haven't mentioned but will surely add to the expense. watch the pilots get screwed on wages further as people try to cut costs to stay in business.
looks like CASA may just get thier wish and get rid of GA in the near future.
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I recall from last year that CASA was implementing an online thingy for the DAMEs, so that it was all input into the CASA system while you were sitting there. So where is the admin cost then?
Even if it had to be put in manually, how could it cost them $130 for some one to enter data??? May take 15 mins at most for a clerk to do it.
Even if it had to be put in manually, how could it cost them $130 for some one to enter data??? May take 15 mins at most for a clerk to do it.
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Next for Johnny's profits !
Do the math - $21 for an ASO 1 to enter the data, $38 for his/her supervisor to ensure the data is corrected, $45 for the computer technician to ensure the data is crossmatched and stored, $ 20 for senior management and $6 for the 'service' that CASA are so diligently providing.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Originally Posted by CUB
Anyone heard or know anything about this ?
As with qualification notations to my license, CASA require the record, not me. CASA should be bear responsiblity for the associated cost.
Like much of the "user pays" jargonistic spin, it's not actually the real user who is paying. This new fee shares in common with their many others that it is neither just nor reasonable. It just is, because some greasy pole climbing CASA bureacrat saw promotion in the idea in age where he can not only get away with it, but which promotes and rewards such perfidy.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
How are they retrieving the funds? Through the doctor at the medical stage or billing you later? If it's the latter, maybe we should all lose the bill. Just another kick in the guts 
Will it ever end??
Will it ever end??
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What a bloody farce, go here to make a complaint.
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/complaints.htm
maybe if they get enough complaints they might sit up & listen......
Then again.
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/complaints.htm
maybe if they get enough complaints they might sit up & listen......
Then again.
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Originally Posted by sage
As with qualification notations to my license, CASA require the record, not me. CASA should be bear responsiblity for the associated cost.
I reckon a lot of people will end up flying without a medical or the endorsement or the change to the AOC. Next thing they will require another $75 to "Process" our flight reviews.
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Lets not forget about all the thousands of private pilots out there who are not making money out of their flying, just had to pay for an ASIC because their aircraft hire operator is based on a secure airport and are now due for a $130 medical fee on top of the cost of the medical for no increase in services or tangible benefit.
Flying is expensive now, it's exactly this sort of thing that will make a lot of pilots just say "enough, no more" and just give up the pleasure of flying for something much cheaper.
I never really agreed with comments that I have heard before that CASA is actually trying to destroy GA, or at least make it so hard to comply and pay to do that people will give it away, but after this I think there is some truth to the statement.
Flying is expensive now, it's exactly this sort of thing that will make a lot of pilots just say "enough, no more" and just give up the pleasure of flying for something much cheaper.
I never really agreed with comments that I have heard before that CASA is actually trying to destroy GA, or at least make it so hard to comply and pay to do that people will give it away, but after this I think there is some truth to the statement.
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I must say that $130.00 seems a bit expensive to process a Medical which should only take less than an hour... but then again I have known CASA to take 6 weeks to get the medical certificate back to me.
CUB,
Did you have to pay the additional fee at the doctors?
CUB,
Did you have to pay the additional fee at the doctors?
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Originally Posted by 5 Left & Right
What a bloody farce, go here to make a complaint.
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/complaints.htm
maybe if they get enough complaints they might sit up & listen......
Then again.
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/complaints.htm
maybe if they get enough complaints they might sit up & listen......
Then again.
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/index.htm
Minister Truss is the one who should get the complaints.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Please be advised that CASA is also now charging $150.00 to process every complaint registered with them. This payment is payable at the time you lodge your complaint but complaints can take up to a year to be acknowledged.
If you don't like it and want to save money you can either
A) - Stop complaining
or
B) - Take their preferred choice and cease all flying activity.
If you don't like it and want to save money you can either
A) - Stop complaining
or
B) - Take their preferred choice and cease all flying activity.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
I just completed my annual medical (yesterday – 4th) with a Dr on the Gold Coast. Made the booking on the 4th (for the 5th) with no initial mention of this new CASA fee (this particular DAME’s practice had been closed over the Xmas period). After making the booking I received a phone call from the receptionist about two hours later from the initial contact just to give my self a heads up on the new CASA fee (as they had JUST been given the information).
While talking to the DAME during the medical it was made quiet clear that he was furious with CASA's latest stunt. DAME’s were given no "real" warning of the approaching fee, and were also politely informed by CASA that they were the ones required to tell pilots renewing their medical of this new fee? Figure that one out, no letter, and no email, nothing at all from CASA............ it’s now the DAMEs job to be the messenger for CASA’s new fees??????? Some one is lacking a serious spine!
Medical = $180 and CASA admin fee = $130, total days exercise priceless!
While talking to the DAME during the medical it was made quiet clear that he was furious with CASA's latest stunt. DAME’s were given no "real" warning of the approaching fee, and were also politely informed by CASA that they were the ones required to tell pilots renewing their medical of this new fee? Figure that one out, no letter, and no email, nothing at all from CASA............ it’s now the DAMEs job to be the messenger for CASA’s new fees??????? Some one is lacking a serious spine!
Medical = $180 and CASA admin fee = $130, total days exercise priceless!
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