Merged: New CASA Charges For Pilots
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
There is a solution. This is a professional pilots bulletin board. Write a new condition into your EBA or award for your employer to reimburse the cost of maintaining a Class 1 medical.
You will probably see a clause in another part of your agreement like this...
A pilot must not fly an aircraft other than in the course of his or her employment unless the employer consents in writing.
In other words, they own your entire professional output. You cannot rent a Cessna 172 to take your mum for a flight on her birthday. Without a written approval from your employer, you are stealing something they paid for - your flight hours limited by law (CAO 48).
FWIW, I think that employers should reimburse or provide for any particular tools, renewals, ratings, charts, etc that they require you to have.
Companies used to reimburse medicals. Time they did so again.
You will probably see a clause in another part of your agreement like this...
A pilot must not fly an aircraft other than in the course of his or her employment unless the employer consents in writing.
In other words, they own your entire professional output. You cannot rent a Cessna 172 to take your mum for a flight on her birthday. Without a written approval from your employer, you are stealing something they paid for - your flight hours limited by law (CAO 48).
FWIW, I think that employers should reimburse or provide for any particular tools, renewals, ratings, charts, etc that they require you to have.
Companies used to reimburse medicals. Time they did so again.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
It is absolutely disgusting. Good if you are a pilot not though...only cause it is going to further discourage younger people to be pilots with all the fees and charges, let alone all the bullsh*t and the amount it costs anyhow with now return. So well done CASA you have further aided (again (for no real reason (it worked for many years before didn't it? Australia is not in recession??))) to the pilot problem that will happen in Australia. Well Done. 
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
so what do we get back for all the GST and fuel excise and other visible taxes we pay?.
Friggen monopoly like ASL backed with the law. Do it and pay it our way or f**k off. yeah, real fair system we live with.
I thought these Idiots were elected by the people to represent the people........ certainly not my idea of fair at all. and after they all pay themselfs a **** load more than we could earn there is still a huge surplus at the end of the year. go figure.
Friggen monopoly like ASL backed with the law. Do it and pay it our way or f**k off. yeah, real fair system we live with.
I thought these Idiots were elected by the people to represent the people........ certainly not my idea of fair at all. and after they all pay themselfs a **** load more than we could earn there is still a huge surplus at the end of the year. go figure.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Well, actually the fuel excise is supposed to decrease.
gradually.
eventually.
where is that flying pig icon ?
gradually.
eventually.
...includes a phased reduction in aviation fuel excise from 2008 and no extra revenue from taxpayers to top up CASA’s funding. The fuel excise rate will be cut by a total of eight per cent.
where is that flying pig icon ?
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Up here in Singapore a couple of days ago I did my medical renewal. The doctor and his staff were all very embarressed to inform me of the $130 "processing fee". The doctor (the well known Dr. M) said he didn't know anything of it until late December and upon contacting his colleagues in Aust. was told they were in the same position. All were as equally outraged as me.
I thought that past goverments had done enough to stuff up aviation in Aust. but now this bunch of fools are really setting the pace.
User pays is one thing but I would certainly like to see a little more justification for what they charge and to apply the charge so sneakily tells me they knew it wouldn't exactly be well recieved.
Happy landings.
I thought that past goverments had done enough to stuff up aviation in Aust. but now this bunch of fools are really setting the pace.
User pays is one thing but I would certainly like to see a little more justification for what they charge and to apply the charge so sneakily tells me they knew it wouldn't exactly be well recieved.
Happy landings.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Ive heard the extra money is to cover the examination required for rectal damage attained during workplace conditions and pay negotiations.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Originally Posted by OPT/MAX
How are they retrieving the funds? Through the doctor at the medical stage or billing you later? If it's the latter, maybe we should all lose the bill. Just another kick in the guts 
Will it ever end??
Will it ever end?? 
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Flying is expensive now, it's exactly this sort of thing that will make a lot of pilots just say "enough, no more" and just give up the pleasure of flying for something much cheaper.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
If you pay for your Class 1 medical, then you can claim it as a tax deduction. If you are employed full time by a company and that company owns all of your flying hours, then the company must pay for it - just like if your are employed to use your MECIR or an Instructor Rating and you fly using those qualifications only for your employer then they are legally obliged to pay for them. However, if your are employed full time as a Grade 3 Instructor with a MECIR but the company does not require you to use those qualifications, then they do not have to pay for renewals. However, if your company wants you to use those qualification or they want you to upgrade those qualifications, then they must pay for them (and also give you the relevant increase in pay rates). If you have qualifications on employment that are not initially used, then some employers will discount aircraft and charge solo rates for aircraft.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
"From 1 January 2006 CASA is charging for a wide range of regulatory services as the first step in a move to full cost recovery.
Fees apply to more than 180 regulatory services including licences and ratings, examinations, medicals, aircraft registration, certificates, permits, exemptions, approvals and authorities...."
....http://casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/index.htm
It never seizes to sh!t me how somebody from some government organisation think that you owe them your dollars.
Fees apply to more than 180 regulatory services including licences and ratings, examinations, medicals, aircraft registration, certificates, permits, exemptions, approvals and authorities...."
....http://casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/index.htm
It never seizes to sh!t me how somebody from some government organisation think that you owe them your dollars.
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And brought in just before the holidays too. Was this timing planned? They are on leave when the complaints come in.
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Yea, verily, we do live in the land of the underarm bowlers.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
I did my medical in mid/late November. I waited the usual time to receive the new piece of paper in the mail but it didn't come. Being considerate i waited until after the xmas period to call about my wayward medical only to be advised that i would have to pay $65 for a reissue. Needless to say i was absolutely blown away. I asked to speak to the manager about and proceeded to tell him what i thought of his bloody fee and that i had to pay for his department's stuff up in not sending one out. Obviously they claim they sent one out but when i asked what date it was mailed to me i was advised, and i quote "it would have been sent the day after it was issued". Would have been sent!!!???? No bloody idea. I advised him that i refused to pay the fee and i am waiting to see what happens next.
What a stupid industry i work in, i could earn more and be better respected if i was in a beer drinkers syncronised swimming team at the commonwealth games!!!
What a stupid industry i work in, i could earn more and be better respected if i was in a beer drinkers syncronised swimming team at the commonwealth games!!!
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Re: New Charges for flight crew medicals?
The way I understand it, CASA is now going to be charging for almost everything they do. Cost recovery. The thing that gets me is the charge rate is $130.00 an hour.
To me, that means it will take some one in CB an hour to assess and then process my medical and get it to me.
Questions. How many licenced pilots in Aus? Must be in the thousands. How many people working in the AVMED area on the issue of medical certificates? Will there be enough time to do every one?
Bet they don't spend an hour on each!!!!!
To me, that means it will take some one in CB an hour to assess and then process my medical and get it to me.
Questions. How many licenced pilots in Aus? Must be in the thousands. How many people working in the AVMED area on the issue of medical certificates? Will there be enough time to do every one?
Bet they don't spend an hour on each!!!!!
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New Casa Fees
Welcome to the end of GA... Thanks to the new user pays system
The new CASA Fees are total BULLS*!T...
$130 for a medical, plus Doctor fee...
$130 to get a endoresment put on your licence...
$130/hour for someone to enter a couple of details onto an existing licence... when will it end?
And the list goes on, take the time to check out how much you are now going to pay:
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/fees.htm
The new CASA Fees are total BULLS*!T...
$130 for a medical, plus Doctor fee...
$130 to get a endoresment put on your licence...
$130/hour for someone to enter a couple of details onto an existing licence... when will it end?
And the list goes on, take the time to check out how much you are now going to pay:
http://www.casa.gov.au/corporat/fees/fees.htm
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Yesss....
So why do we all pay so much tax?
I want the percentage back that goes to keeping these leeches on the purse..If they want to cost recover then let them give me my tax money back and i will decide when I "use" or pay...Another way of increasing the bureaucratic tax take..thats all .
So why do we all pay so much tax?
I want the percentage back that goes to keeping these leeches on the purse..If they want to cost recover then let them give me my tax money back and i will decide when I "use" or pay...Another way of increasing the bureaucratic tax take..thats all .
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Re: New Casa Fees
As I stated on another thread...$11.5 billion surplus and yet the Govt still follows the user pays mantra.
Isn't that what income tax and GST is for...paying our employees (the Govt) to supply services via the Public Services (surely the ultimate oxymoron).
User pays and privatisation is a huge con and an abrogation of the primary purpose of Govt...to provide the framework for private enterprise to flourish.
But the bureacratic system is designed to protect itself. Democracy has become a bit of a con itself.
Isn't that what income tax and GST is for...paying our employees (the Govt) to supply services via the Public Services (surely the ultimate oxymoron).
User pays and privatisation is a huge con and an abrogation of the primary purpose of Govt...to provide the framework for private enterprise to flourish.
But the bureacratic system is designed to protect itself. Democracy has become a bit of a con itself.
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Re: Casa charging for Medical
Originally Posted by kookabat
RAAus here I come!
When my Medical is due to expire in 3 months. it will be the end of a personal era.
As a customer of CASA what service am i getting for my now expesive pastime??? for $130 i have a full Cross country PAX endorsed RAA licence for 12 months, and i can register my aircraft for similar!
how much would that cost me buying from CASA???
as the now obviose trend continues, CASA's Full cost recovery will end up with Airlines only funding CASA! with the Private Pilot being a distant memory of days gone by.