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Old 13th Oct 2005, 13:12
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Photo Licence

Hi, I am applying for my photo licence and police check as I currently hold a PPL . Anyway I just want to confirm whether I have to pay any fees for this as I cannot find any reference to actual fees on the application or the CASA website. Thanks
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Old 13th Oct 2005, 16:15
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From the CASA website:

Update 28 September 2005

Currently there are no fees for the aviation security check or the issue of the photographic licence and Aviation Identification.
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Old 13th Oct 2005, 23:03
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Currently no charge as NZL has stated.

I wouldn't be holding my breath on anything coming back before Christmas. Mine is 7 weeks and counting. I rang them 2 weeks ago and was told the hold up isn't with CASA but with the AFP. Apparently up to 5000 applications currently in the system.
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Old 14th Oct 2005, 10:17
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I have heard that CASA will start charging for photo licences after 1 January 2006

Another issue I heard other day is that the agencies doing the security check i.e. AFP, ASIO and immigration are too busy doing checks for the Commonwealth Games and pilot licences will take second place.
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Got mine this week..... applied in Feb !!
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... and isn't it a scrappy bit of kit .. one would think that they could produce something a bit classier ...
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Are you guys sure about all this?
I telephone CASA only about 2 weeks ago and they said its usually all done in 3-4 weeks.
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Old 14th Oct 2005, 23:32
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Yep, I'm pretty sure this is how it's turning out for most people.

When I took mine into the local CASA office I was told 3-4 weeks. That was 7 plus weeks ago. I was also told that new licences were being done ahead of existing ones. If your an existing PPL holder your application goes to the bottom of the pile.

Doesn't look like the AFP were ready for this.
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Old 15th Oct 2005, 00:25
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dude65 - weren't casa upgrading their systems during september and didn't want any applications of any sort sent in? so they've probably been slammed in the first few weeks of october with over 1 1/2 months worth of paperwork to process and it is taking them a while to get through everything.....
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John t. Agreed. looks photocopied to me and they have changed the fonts size and formatting. Even the stamp on the 1st page is part of the photocopy. No orig signiture or stamp... very poor

They must have changed the way endorsements are shown, as all mine have been changed and resequenced. Now have a manual prop not a CSU ??

Thats what you get with mass production I guess...!!
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Didn't hear anything about CASA not accepting applications when I lodged mine in early September. With a 31 December deadline it's going to get worse before it gets any better.

I guess you can either jump up and down about it or just wait your turn. At the moment I'm happy to wait my turn. I do know of a couple of blokes who think they're a cut above the rest of us and are behaving accordingly. Unfortunate, abusing the people who are processing these licences doesn't acheive a bloody thing.

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Old 15th Oct 2005, 13:01
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Thumbs down

Even without all the background checks they mentioned that it could take up to 3-4 months before you receive the photo licence.
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Old 15th Oct 2005, 17:15
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I guess I'll just have to trundle about the sky without one until they show up. buggered if I'm going to give up work to make it convinient for their knee jerk reaction rule change.
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THE DEVIL IN THE DETAIL!

The really frustrating part is that my PHOTO LICENCE means nothing when it comes to flying in to a number of security listed airports. At such airports I must pay big bucks for an ASIC card over and above my PHOTO LICENCE. This is despite the fact that I have alalready been fully security and identity checked to get my current PHOTO LICENCE!!
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I still haven't got mine and I applied dec last year!
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 11:45
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Red face

And lets face it. Is it going to stop one single potential terrorist?. I doubt it. I wanna know why after thirteen years of flying with a valid licence, I suddenly have to have a security and identification check?. I could be a sleeper agent or something, just waiting to slam my 172 or 310 into ........well, into,............ sh1t.........theres nothing out here to hit. I know, i'll fly into the big smoke and................well, actually, theres nothing there I could worry much either. Now a roadtrain of fuel or a roadtrain of explosive stuff that I have access to quite readily, without any form of security drama.......well........I doubt I could do alot thats going to change the world with that either.
Wake up you pollies!!!!. theres bugger all over in this part of the world that is going to be earth shattering by being blown up or crashed into. none of the bad guys could give a fat rats crack about most of australia, and those that may have a desire to crash and burn stuff will find a way despite all the crap your forcing the decent law abiding (well, until now) folk to go through, as well as stumbeling onto a nice little earner.
I think the aviaton community has a lot to answer for, for not standing up and saying something about these totally ineffectual, unnecessary, knee jerk reaction rules, before they became laws.

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Old 17th Oct 2005, 14:46
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I complained to Warren Truss and received a typical nonsensical reply that they are looking into the problem and may have a resolution shortly.
Quote -'The background checking for an ASIC is more rigorous than that required to obtain a photographic pilot licence' !!!!
Those damn pilots can stay on the airside of the fence without an ASIC, because they won't be trusted to get back on the tarmac with just a photo pilot's licence. Oh no indeed.
Typical bureaucratic sense.
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Old 17th Oct 2005, 23:01
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And this from CASA's website

"After 31 December 2005, if you want to operate an aircraft in Australian Territory and you need to hold a licence issued by CASA you must have a current aviation security check status. That means you must undergo an aviation security status check or hold a current ASIC".

It's not hard to tell what's going to happen next.

It'll be backflips at 20 paces by the government or else some pilots won't be able to work after Dec 31. All this so the government can make sure the hot dog vendors at the Commonwealth Games aren't a security risk.
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Mine took 6 months don't bother calling it will arrive!
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Old 18th Oct 2005, 03:27
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I have got the photo portion back, but I'm still waiting for the ATPL which I applied for at the same time.....I agree with a previous post "not very professional".
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