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Old 20th Sep 2005, 06:20
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It seems Money Money Money is what its all about.
Well I suppose the whole Basair is about doing business right? Just like any other company out there, including other flying schools.

I suppose if Basair spend more $$ on fixing the a/c instead of doing all the advertisement. It would save them alot of trouble !?!
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 15:30
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Aerocom, unfortunately you're dead right on that one. Sad to see that a relatively big school treats their customers like the maintenance on their planes.

Ready2go..your last sentence is also on the $$ (excuse the pun). Unfortunate....great instructing there, but when it comes to dealing with people they've got no idea. I wouldn't send my dog to train at that "school".
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Old 21st Sep 2005, 01:24
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Angel Pilot error a bit wide...

Well, I have an issue with the whole "Pilot Error" thing!

I had a crash, engine failure after take-off simulation which during the overshoot, turned into the real thing.

What happened? My student turned the fuel off.

So - Pilot Error or Engine Failure? Technically I was PIC but I was NOT the one who turned the fuel off, so who's error was it?!



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Old 21st Sep 2005, 02:30
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'technically'???

who pulled the power in the first place? i'd suggest if you did not know what the outcome was going to be prior to doing so, then you shouldn't have done it!
 
Old 21st Sep 2005, 10:17
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.....excuse me......

Hate to be an alarmist but:
THERE WOULD NOT BE ONE FLYING TRAINING ORGANISATION IN AUSTRALIA THAT IS NOT DRIVEN IN SOME WAY BY $$$! Simple truth is that's why they do it..............end of story!
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Old 21st Sep 2005, 10:30
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The guy from Sydney Sky divers who was first to the scene found the fuel selector in the OFF position...in the middle. There is no 'both' on this one. Guess they'd been flying a 182 most recently and didn't bother to check the difference
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Old 22nd Sep 2005, 14:25
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Fuel selector in off pos.?
mm...hang on a minute, onyl flown the 172 twice during my study, but im pretty sure it's got a both selector switch.....somebody plz correct me if im wrong.....
also, if the selector was in off postition,how coudl the plane took off at the first place?


regarding the oney matter, well...i guess that's wat doing a business is all about? ;P
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Old 23rd Sep 2005, 01:26
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Technically I was PIC but I was NOT the one who turned the fuel off
"Technically" has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

You were pilot in command and YOU were solely responsible for the operation and safety of the aircraft during flight time

I wonder why he turned the fuel off and why you didn't notice and correct it?
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Old 25th Sep 2005, 09:54
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FYI I can confirm that the fuel cock was turned off
FYI I can confirm that the Cessna 152 model with the ability to seat 4 pax is indeed known as a C172
FYI I can neither confirm nor deny the aircraft suffered an EFATO
Why do I know this?
I turned the cock off myself as I commenced the investigation into the accident plus I wait for engineering reports plus I don't speculate like certain others plus I don't begrudge a good company from attracting customers who recognise a good operation.
If you have a beef about an operation, be a man/woman and front the Chief Pilot privately, he can even do your MECIR renewal and heaven forbid, you might learn something
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