Cessna 210 flies fine with 5 foot of wing missing
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Cessna 210 flies fine with 5 foot of wing missing
Originally Posted by Jersey Evening Post 16 August 2005:
AN Irish pilot flew for nearly two hours with over five feet of the aircraft's left wing missing before diverting into Jersey on Friday afternoon.
An Airport stand-by was called at 4.50 pm when the pilot reported having difficulties, including no readings from his auxiliary fuel tank. However, that fuel tank which began the flight in the wing-tip was later found on the ground in Ireland. The plane landed safely at the Airport at 5.10 pm.
Remarkably, the pilot was able to fly and steer the five-seater Cessna 210 after it was reported to have struck the top of a tree shortly after take-off from the Brittas House airstrip, about 18 miles east of Shannon.
There were three passengers on board the Pacific Network Air craft, two of whom were understood to be engineers being taken to Lisbon to repair a Boeing 767 on the ground there.
Measurements taken today show that 5 ft 3 in were lost at the back of the wing and 4 ft 3 in at the front. Investigators from the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit are looking into what happened and a spokesman said that they had located debris from the private plane near the airstrip. It is also believed that the US Federal Aviation Authority may become involved, as the registration number N6593W is American.
AN Irish pilot flew for nearly two hours with over five feet of the aircraft's left wing missing before diverting into Jersey on Friday afternoon.
An Airport stand-by was called at 4.50 pm when the pilot reported having difficulties, including no readings from his auxiliary fuel tank. However, that fuel tank which began the flight in the wing-tip was later found on the ground in Ireland. The plane landed safely at the Airport at 5.10 pm.
Remarkably, the pilot was able to fly and steer the five-seater Cessna 210 after it was reported to have struck the top of a tree shortly after take-off from the Brittas House airstrip, about 18 miles east of Shannon.
There were three passengers on board the Pacific Network Air craft, two of whom were understood to be engineers being taken to Lisbon to repair a Boeing 767 on the ground there.
Measurements taken today show that 5 ft 3 in were lost at the back of the wing and 4 ft 3 in at the front. Investigators from the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit are looking into what happened and a spokesman said that they had located debris from the private plane near the airstrip. It is also believed that the US Federal Aviation Authority may become involved, as the registration number N6593W is American.
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after looking at all this
has Journalism gotten progressively worse??
read :
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNo...entPK=13040192
dozy pilot.
im not sure these writers are even trying to hold punches back
anymore, at least for once they got the part about single engine Cessna right
has Journalism gotten progressively worse??
read :
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNo...entPK=13040192
dozy pilot.
im not sure these writers are even trying to hold punches back
anymore, at least for once they got the part about single engine Cessna right
From Landings Aviation's Databases
N-number : N6593W
Aircraft Serial Number : P21000801
Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
Model : P210N
Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR
Model : TSIO-520 SER
Aircraft Year : 1982
Owner Name : SOUTHERN AIRCRAFT CONSULTANCY INC TRUSTEE
Owner Address : THE COT COT VALLEY ST JUST
CORNWALL ENGLAND, TR19-7NT
UNITED KINGDOM
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 03-Oct-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
N-number : N6593W
Aircraft Serial Number : P21000801
Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA
Model : P210N
Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR
Model : TSIO-520 SER
Aircraft Year : 1982
Owner Name : SOUTHERN AIRCRAFT CONSULTANCY INC TRUSTEE
Owner Address : THE COT COT VALLEY ST JUST
CORNWALL ENGLAND, TR19-7NT
UNITED KINGDOM
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 03-Oct-2002
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Normal
FAA has it as http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNum...umbertxt=6593W
Aircraft Description
Serial Number P21000801
Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name CESSNA
Certificate Issue Date 10/03/2002
Model P210N
Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine
Type Engine Turbo-Shaft
Pending Number Change None
Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None
Mode S Code 52130377
MFR Year 1982
Fractional Owner NO
Aircraft Description
Serial Number P21000801
Type Registration Corporation
Manufacturer Name CESSNA
Certificate Issue Date 10/03/2002
Model P210N
Status Valid
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine
Type Engine Turbo-Shaft
Pending Number Change None
Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None
Mode S Code 52130377
MFR Year 1982
Fractional Owner NO
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It's a Pressurised 210.
4 pax with full fuel and aux's and not overweight ???, Irish pilot, "unaware" that a good part of the wing is missing, N registered aircraft doing a charter originating out of Ireland, blah blah, blah.........nah we don't want to go there do we.
4 pax with full fuel and aux's and not overweight ???, Irish pilot, "unaware" that a good part of the wing is missing, N registered aircraft doing a charter originating out of Ireland, blah blah, blah.........nah we don't want to go there do we.
After looking at the photos in that link - HOLY CRAP!
I always thought of the 210 as being reliable and rugged and capable of just about anything (within reason) but this is taking it to another level!
Also, once upon a time I had quite a few wet dreams about turbine powered 210s, looks like it is a reality.
TL
I always thought of the 210 as being reliable and rugged and capable of just about anything (within reason) but this is taking it to another level!
Also, once upon a time I had quite a few wet dreams about turbine powered 210s, looks like it is a reality.
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I suspect that the "turbo shaft" is an FAA error. A turbo shaft engine is a turbine engine that powers a helicopter, vs a turbo prop engine powers an airplane propellor.
If you read further down on the registration it lists the engine as a Continental TSIO-520, which is "turbocharged" to make matters more confusing.
This is a turbocharged pressurized Cessna P210N.
Me thinks there is more to this story than the pilot is revealing.
If you read further down on the registration it lists the engine as a Continental TSIO-520, which is "turbocharged" to make matters more confusing.
This is a turbocharged pressurized Cessna P210N.
Me thinks there is more to this story than the pilot is revealing.
Negative Check 6...have a look at the photos, particularly the big paddles out the front that are in a feathered position.
It is an Allison powered turbine 210, hence what you are saying about a "turbo shaft" and helicopters makes sense.
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It is an Allison powered turbine 210, hence what you are saying about a "turbo shaft" and helicopters makes sense.
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TL, I have not been able to open any of the pics, so certainly will take your word for it.
This makes sense, because the Allison 250 turboshaft is actually the after market engine fitted to the Cessna 210 and the Cessna 206. I have flown the 206 version, and it definately was the turboshaft engine, even though driving a propellor.
Thanks for the correction and I will keep trying to open up one of the photos.
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This makes sense, because the Allison 250 turboshaft is actually the after market engine fitted to the Cessna 210 and the Cessna 206. I have flown the 206 version, and it definately was the turboshaft engine, even though driving a propellor.
Thanks for the correction and I will keep trying to open up one of the photos.
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A turbo shaft engine is a turbine engine that powers a helicopter, vs a turbo prop engine powers an airplane propellor.
Then a Garrett TPE331-X is a turbopropshaft.
and a PT6-X is a wannabe helicopter engine.........? 
The Allison llike the PT6 is a free turbine engine, unlike the Garrett and similar which are fixed shaft turbines.
'tis indeed pressurised and why 4 pax with full fuel is about it.
It may have had a Conitinental TSIO 520 = Turbo Supercharged Injected O-520cu inches when it left the factory but someone, I suspect Soloy has clapped an Allison on it.
The greatest helicopter engine that never made it as a turboprop. Ask a Gomad operator what he thinks of the Allison.
About the only thing that made sense in Check 6 post is that
there is more to this story than the pilot is revealing.
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Gaunty, I rarely find Ozzies to be rude, but you are an exception.
A "turboshaft" engine is a turbine engine originally intended for helicopters, regardless if it is a free turbine or not, as it drives a shaft.
In this case, my good friends at Soloy modified the Allison C20-250 to drive a prop on the 200 series Cessna.
Yes, you are very perceptive, but left off the "O" in your rush to be a know-it-all.
T = Turbo
S = Supercharged
I = Fuel Injected
O = Opposed cylinders
Cheers,
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A "turboshaft" engine is a turbine engine originally intended for helicopters, regardless if it is a free turbine or not, as it drives a shaft.
In this case, my good friends at Soloy modified the Allison C20-250 to drive a prop on the 200 series Cessna.
Yes, you are very perceptive, but left off the "O" in your rush to be a know-it-all.
T = Turbo
S = Supercharged
I = Fuel Injected
O = Opposed cylinders
Cheers,
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Perhaps we are divided by a common language, my apologies.
Mfr/Mdl Code Manufacturer Name Model Name Type Engine Horsepower
03019 ALLISON 250 SER Reciprocating 00420
03002 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Shaft 00250
03003 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Prop 00250
03010 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Prop 00317
03011 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Shaft 00317
03012 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Prop 00400
03013 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Shaft 00400
03014 ALLISON 250 SERIES Turbo-Prop 00300
03017 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Prop 00385
03018 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Shaft 00450
03035 ALLISON 250-C10D Turbo-Shaft 00500
03020 ALLISON 250-C20 SER Turbo-Shaft 00420
03021 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Prop 00500
03022 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Shaft 00500
03015 ALLISON 250-C30 SER Turbo-Shaft 00650
03029 ALLISON 250-C47 Turbo-Shaft 00600
Same gas generator/turbine engine, different fandangle on the other side of the gearbox.
Whether an engine core was originally designed intended for fans, helicopters or propellers is moot. The Garrett Turboshaft/prop/jet/fan engine series started life as the ubiquitous truck turbocharger.
We have come a complete circle with the fans on the current engines absorbing almost all of the energy (80+%)with similar nominal residual thrust from the turbine as from turboprops.
Cogen is a whole nother industry derived from the use of said residual energy from industrial turbines.
Our local Govt Aircraft Factory decided in their wisdom to use two ALLISON 250-B17B Turboprop version of the B17 Series, turboshaft, if you wish, instead of a single PT6 as the original design intended for their Nomad. They never did get the gearbox right or the subsequent C of G issue under control either.
The Nomad made a paraplegic of the Chief designer and succeeded in killing many others, predated the C208 Caravan by some 20 years. The Cabin dimensions are almost identical in that it is a C208 cabin on its side and it had the same mission spec. Then as long as you could put up with bicycle chain operated retractable U/C, a dodgy stabilator, didn't ask too much of the gearboxes amongst a dozen other foibles it wasn't a bad aircraft.
Perhaps we are divided by a common language, my apologies.
Mfr/Mdl Code Manufacturer Name Model Name Type Engine Horsepower
03019 ALLISON 250 SER Reciprocating 00420
03002 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Shaft 00250
03003 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Prop 00250
03010 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Prop 00317
03011 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Shaft 00317
03012 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Prop 00400
03013 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Shaft 00400
03014 ALLISON 250 SERIES Turbo-Prop 00300
03017 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Prop 00385
03018 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Shaft 00450
03035 ALLISON 250-C10D Turbo-Shaft 00500
03020 ALLISON 250-C20 SER Turbo-Shaft 00420
03021 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Prop 00500
03022 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Shaft 00500
03015 ALLISON 250-C30 SER Turbo-Shaft 00650
03029 ALLISON 250-C47 Turbo-Shaft 00600
Same gas generator/turbine engine, different fandangle on the other side of the gearbox.
Whether an engine core was originally designed intended for fans, helicopters or propellers is moot. The Garrett Turboshaft/prop/jet/fan engine series started life as the ubiquitous truck turbocharger.
We have come a complete circle with the fans on the current engines absorbing almost all of the energy (80+%)with similar nominal residual thrust from the turbine as from turboprops.
Cogen is a whole nother industry derived from the use of said residual energy from industrial turbines.
Our local Govt Aircraft Factory decided in their wisdom to use two ALLISON 250-B17B Turboprop version of the B17 Series, turboshaft, if you wish, instead of a single PT6 as the original design intended for their Nomad. They never did get the gearbox right or the subsequent C of G issue under control either.
The Nomad made a paraplegic of the Chief designer and succeeded in killing many others, predated the C208 Caravan by some 20 years. The Cabin dimensions are almost identical in that it is a C208 cabin on its side and it had the same mission spec. Then as long as you could put up with bicycle chain operated retractable U/C, a dodgy stabilator, didn't ask too much of the gearboxes amongst a dozen other foibles it wasn't a bad aircraft.
