Cessna 210 flies fine with 5 foot of wing missing
Originally Posted by Jersey Evening Post 16 August 2005:
AN Irish pilot flew for nearly two hours with over five feet of the aircraft's left wing missing before diverting into Jersey on Friday afternoon. An Airport stand-by was called at 4.50 pm when the pilot reported having difficulties, including no readings from his auxiliary fuel tank. However, that fuel tank which began the flight in the wing-tip was later found on the ground in Ireland. The plane landed safely at the Airport at 5.10 pm. Remarkably, the pilot was able to fly and steer the five-seater Cessna 210 after it was reported to have struck the top of a tree shortly after take-off from the Brittas House airstrip, about 18 miles east of Shannon. There were three passengers on board the Pacific Network Air craft, two of whom were understood to be engineers being taken to Lisbon to repair a Boeing 767 on the ground there. Measurements taken today show that 5 ft 3 in were lost at the back of the wing and 4 ft 3 in at the front. Investigators from the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit are looking into what happened and a spokesman said that they had located debris from the private plane near the airstrip. It is also believed that the US Federal Aviation Authority may become involved, as the registration number N6593W is American. |
Saw the photos a few weks back, didnt look like 5', and it looked like a turbine powered 210, not piston.
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after looking at all this
has Journalism gotten progressively worse?? read : http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayNo...entPK=13040192 dozy pilot. im not sure these writers are even trying to hold punches back anymore, at least for once they got the part about single engine Cessna right :} :} |
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From Landings Aviation's Databases
N-number : N6593W Aircraft Serial Number : P21000801 Aircraft Manufacturer : CESSNA Model : P210N Engine Manufacturer : CONT MOTOR Model : TSIO-520 SER Aircraft Year : 1982 Owner Name : SOUTHERN AIRCRAFT CONSULTANCY INC TRUSTEE Owner Address : THE COT COT VALLEY ST JUST CORNWALL ENGLAND, TR19-7NT UNITED KINGDOM Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 03-Oct-2002 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Normal |
FAA has it as http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNum...umbertxt=6593W
Aircraft Description Serial Number P21000801 Type Registration Corporation Manufacturer Name CESSNA Certificate Issue Date 10/03/2002 Model P210N Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine Turbo-Shaft Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 52130377 MFR Year 1982 Fractional Owner NO |
SWH,
Thanks for the pics, but the links dont work! Anyone else have any pics? :ok: |
It's a Pressurised 210.
4 pax with full fuel and aux's and not overweight ???, Irish pilot, "unaware" that a good part of the wing is missing, N registered aircraft doing a charter originating out of Ireland, blah blah, blah.........nah we don't want to go there do we. |
After looking at the photos in that link - HOLY CRAP!
I always thought of the 210 as being reliable and rugged and capable of just about anything (within reason) but this is taking it to another level! Also, once upon a time I had quite a few wet dreams about turbine powered 210s, looks like it is a reality. TL :} |
I suspect that the "turbo shaft" is an FAA error. A turbo shaft engine is a turbine engine that powers a helicopter, vs a turbo prop engine powers an airplane propellor.
If you read further down on the registration it lists the engine as a Continental TSIO-520, which is "turbocharged" to make matters more confusing. This is a turbocharged pressurized Cessna P210N. Me thinks there is more to this story than the pilot is revealing. :confused: :confused: |
Negative Check 6...have a look at the photos, particularly the big paddles out the front that are in a feathered position.
It is an Allison powered turbine 210, hence what you are saying about a "turbo shaft" and helicopters makes sense. TL |
TL, I have not been able to open any of the pics, so certainly will take your word for it.
This makes sense, because the Allison 250 turboshaft is actually the after market engine fitted to the Cessna 210 and the Cessna 206. I have flown the 206 version, and it definately was the turboshaft engine, even though driving a propellor. Thanks for the correction and I will keep trying to open up one of the photos. Check 6 |
A turbo shaft engine is a turbine engine that powers a helicopter, vs a turbo prop engine powers an airplane propellor. Then a Garrett TPE331-X is a turbopropshaft. :} and a PT6-X is a wannabe helicopter engine.........? :p The Allison llike the PT6 is a free turbine engine, unlike the Garrett and similar which are fixed shaft turbines. 'tis indeed pressurised and why 4 pax with full fuel is about it. It may have had a Conitinental TSIO 520 = Turbo Supercharged Injected O-520cu inches when it left the factory but someone, I suspect Soloy has clapped an Allison on it. The greatest helicopter engine that never made it as a turboprop. Ask a Gomad operator what he thinks of the Allison. :rolleyes: About the only thing that made sense in Check 6 post is that there is more to this story than the pilot is revealing. |
Gaunty, I rarely find Ozzies to be rude, but you are an exception.
A "turboshaft" engine is a turbine engine originally intended for helicopters, regardless if it is a free turbine or not, as it drives a shaft. In this case, my good friends at Soloy modified the Allison C20-250 to drive a prop on the 200 series Cessna. Yes, you are very perceptive, but left off the "O" in your rush to be a know-it-all. T = Turbo S = Supercharged I = Fuel Injected O = Opposed cylinders Cheers, Check 6 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
Check 6
Perhaps we are divided by a common language, my apologies. Mfr/Mdl Code Manufacturer Name Model Name Type Engine Horsepower 03019 ALLISON 250 SER Reciprocating 00420 03002 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Shaft 00250 03003 ALLISON 250 SER 250HP Turbo-Prop 00250 03010 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Prop 00317 03011 ALLISON 250 SER 317HP Turbo-Shaft 00317 03012 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Prop 00400 03013 ALLISON 250 SER 400HP Turbo-Shaft 00400 03014 ALLISON 250 SERIES Turbo-Prop 00300 03017 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Prop 00385 03018 ALLISON 250-B17 SER Turbo-Shaft 00450 03035 ALLISON 250-C10D Turbo-Shaft 00500 03020 ALLISON 250-C20 SER Turbo-Shaft 00420 03021 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Prop 00500 03022 ALLISON 250-C28 SER Turbo-Shaft 00500 03015 ALLISON 250-C30 SER Turbo-Shaft 00650 03029 ALLISON 250-C47 Turbo-Shaft 00600 Same gas generator/turbine engine, different fandangle on the other side of the gearbox. Whether an engine core was originally designed intended for fans, helicopters or propellers is moot. The Garrett Turboshaft/prop/jet/fan engine series started life as the ubiquitous truck turbocharger. We have come a complete circle with the fans on the current engines absorbing almost all of the energy (80+%)with similar nominal residual thrust from the turbine as from turboprops. Cogen is a whole nother industry derived from the use of said residual energy from industrial turbines. Our local Govt Aircraft Factory decided in their wisdom to use two ALLISON 250-B17B Turboprop version of the B17 Series, turboshaft, if you wish, instead of a single PT6 as the original design intended for their Nomad. They never did get the gearbox right or the subsequent C of G issue under control either. The Nomad made a paraplegic of the Chief designer and succeeded in killing many others, predated the C208 Caravan by some 20 years. The Cabin dimensions are almost identical in that it is a C208 cabin on its side and it had the same mission spec. Then as long as you could put up with bicycle chain operated retractable U/C, a dodgy stabilator, didn't ask too much of the gearboxes amongst a dozen other foibles it wasn't a bad aircraft. |
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