Vincent Aviation (Darwin) how are they going?
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Vincent Aviation (Darwin) how are they going?
I believe they have just takien delivery of another 1900D and may soon have a Dash 8, so is the centre run performing that good?
Anyone know if they have filled the Chief Pilot position that was advertised recently?
What are they like to work for (ie pay and conditions)?
Anyone know if they have filled the Chief Pilot position that was advertised recently?
What are they like to work for (ie pay and conditions)?
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They do have a Dash these days, but it is with their NZ operation in Wellinton. I think that they also have taken that 1900D into that side of things also as they are doing a lot of work for Eagle down there.
I dont know anything about what is going on in Darwin
I dont know anything about what is going on in Darwin
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This company has a continual revolving door on the Chief Pilot's office as every candidate they put up for the position either fails CASA's Chief Pilot exam on the first attempt and is not given a second one or is deemed unsuitable by a certain operations controller who is really the pseudo Chief Pilot.
The Centre run DN/TN/TK/AS & return. Airnorth never made any money on this run so why in the world did Vincent ever expect to. To quote Einstein's definition of insanity "doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result".
I believe they may have a small staffing problem with 4 Captains leaving in the last month and a couple of F/O's booted. They must have plenty of money to throw at training as no pilots are bonded and all training is done on the B1900.
Now I hear a certain boy wonder, also referred to by his colleagues as the crash test dummy and sometime test pilot has been appointed the position of trainer and checker in the B1900.
We’ve all heard of lunatics in charge of the asylum and Dracula in charge of the bloodbank, but the boy wonder in charge of check and training!?!?!? I can hear Dr Phil saying “what were you thinking”?
I'll have McFries with that
The Centre run DN/TN/TK/AS & return. Airnorth never made any money on this run so why in the world did Vincent ever expect to. To quote Einstein's definition of insanity "doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result".
I believe they may have a small staffing problem with 4 Captains leaving in the last month and a couple of F/O's booted. They must have plenty of money to throw at training as no pilots are bonded and all training is done on the B1900.
Now I hear a certain boy wonder, also referred to by his colleagues as the crash test dummy and sometime test pilot has been appointed the position of trainer and checker in the B1900.
We’ve all heard of lunatics in charge of the asylum and Dracula in charge of the bloodbank, but the boy wonder in charge of check and training!?!?!? I can hear Dr Phil saying “what were you thinking”?
I'll have McFries with that
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1900's don't have a 3rd seat in the cockpit unless there was only one pilot on that flight then he might have been able to sit in the copilot seat.
Instead of loosing 4 captains, the General Manager out the door and yet another candidate for their Darwin Chief Pilot position not getting through CASA, booted Test pilot and his better half and the company might have had fighting chance? Not Now! What a JOKE!
I hear money isn't the worst but not the best. Good place to get some quick turbine time up and get paid a bit while you do it just as long as your a good suckup! most pilots are good at that.
Instead of loosing 4 captains, the General Manager out the door and yet another candidate for their Darwin Chief Pilot position not getting through CASA, booted Test pilot and his better half and the company might have had fighting chance? Not Now! What a JOKE!
I hear money isn't the worst but not the best. Good place to get some quick turbine time up and get paid a bit while you do it just as long as your a good suckup! most pilots are good at that.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, A B1900 is over 5700kgs and therefore requires Two crew to operate. So what sort of safety culture are Vincent trying to promote when one of the crew alights from a control seat in flight and allows a Dad to sit up front?
Am I missing something here or does the regulator in NZ allow this practice???
Do they also have a Test Pilot lurking on the other side of the Tasman?
I don't even think Shonkey could be that dumb, CHOICE BRO!!!!
Beware of low hanging branches in the parking bay.
Am I missing something here or does the regulator in NZ allow this practice???
Do they also have a Test Pilot lurking on the other side of the Tasman?
I don't even think Shonkey could be that dumb, CHOICE BRO!!!!
Beware of low hanging branches in the parking bay.
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No..what they do is they seat you in the observers seat opposite the pax entry door and let you plug a headset into the observers Jack so you can talk and listen to the pilots hard at work.
There is only one seat with the spare jack..the view of the Captains instruments is not too bad.
There is only one seat with the spare jack..the view of the Captains instruments is not too bad.
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It's not the weight, but the number of seats (more than 9) that mean you need 2 pilots on this type of B1900 operation. The 1900 is certified as a single or two-pilot aircraft. There is no way a passenger would have been let sit in a pilot seat on the operation in question (which I'm pretty sure would have been a scheduled Air NZ service). As mattyj said, he would have been in the front passenger seat.
As far as I'm aware, Vincent have all but pulled out of their Australian operations due to the huge (and increasing) demand for their services back home (buy Eagle).
It's not the weight, but the number of seats (more than 9) that mean you need 2 pilots on this type of B1900 operation. The 1900 is certified as a single or two-pilot aircraft. There is no way a passenger would have been let sit in a pilot seat on the operation in question (which I'm pretty sure would have been a scheduled Air NZ service). As mattyj said, he would have been in the front passenger seat.
As far as I'm aware, Vincent have all but pulled out of their Australian operations due to the huge (and increasing) demand for their services back home (buy Eagle).
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How many seats has a B1900 got? More than 9? If it has, it must require two crew. Are B1900's certified single pilot in NZ or is this only in the US?
Does the word "pilots" above mean one or two? The way I read it, it means two.
Didn't know Air NZ operated B1900's and besides that, Monkey stated that it was Vincent who operated the flight not Air NZ.
How many seats has a B1900 got? More than 9? If it has, it must require two crew. Are B1900's certified single pilot in NZ or is this only in the US?
and he said that Vincent took him from Nelson, New Zealand, to Wellington, NZ. He said it was a Beech 1900C, and he was allowed to sit in the cockpit with the pilots
Does the word "pilots" above mean one or two? The way I read it, it means two.
Didn't know Air NZ operated B1900's and besides that, Monkey stated that it was Vincent who operated the flight not Air NZ.
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I can reliably inform you that B1900's in NZ are not certified for single pilot operations, private or ATO's.
Without the same certainty of reliabilty I think that Vincents B1900C has the standard Coat Locker/Hold configuration behind the Co's seat, opposite the Main Cabin door, with the 19th seat installed at the back of the cabin as part of a 3 seat row 10.
Air NZ/Eagle's B1900D's have no Coat Locker/Hold and instead have the 19th seat installed in it's place as Seat 1F which has headseat jack points for observers if required.
I doubt very much that monkeybdg's dad sat in the cockpit on a NZ ATO flight operated by Vincent Aviation on behalf of Air NZ.
Vincent is a Charter operator who maintain their business operating B1900C/D's and a DH-8-100 for overflow or engineering cover for whomever (plus Flight Calibration for Airways Corp using their C406's & a bit of Cook Strait freight) but they have contracts in place with Eagle Air for the B1900's to operate scheduled services on a regular basis. They have for the last 18mths been operating 2 BHE-CHC returns for Eagle, who are now about to purchase their 17th B1900D from the USA to replace Vincents as it has proved a sustainable service. Vincents are to be used instead on developing new Eagle routes involving HLZ-NSN, NSN - PMR, NSN - WLG and taking on the exisiting midday flight WLG-TIU -WLG for atleast the next 4mths.
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Without the same certainty of reliabilty I think that Vincents B1900C has the standard Coat Locker/Hold configuration behind the Co's seat, opposite the Main Cabin door, with the 19th seat installed at the back of the cabin as part of a 3 seat row 10.
Air NZ/Eagle's B1900D's have no Coat Locker/Hold and instead have the 19th seat installed in it's place as Seat 1F which has headseat jack points for observers if required.
I doubt very much that monkeybdg's dad sat in the cockpit on a NZ ATO flight operated by Vincent Aviation on behalf of Air NZ.
Vincent is a Charter operator who maintain their business operating B1900C/D's and a DH-8-100 for overflow or engineering cover for whomever (plus Flight Calibration for Airways Corp using their C406's & a bit of Cook Strait freight) but they have contracts in place with Eagle Air for the B1900's to operate scheduled services on a regular basis. They have for the last 18mths been operating 2 BHE-CHC returns for Eagle, who are now about to purchase their 17th B1900D from the USA to replace Vincents as it has proved a sustainable service. Vincents are to be used instead on developing new Eagle routes involving HLZ-NSN, NSN - PMR, NSN - WLG and taking on the exisiting midday flight WLG-TIU -WLG for atleast the next 4mths.
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it is so funny reading this
take it from someone that actually works there......
Bussiness is going very well on both sides of the Tasman.
2x B1900C models
1x B1900D model
1x Reims F406
based in Darwin
1x Dash 8
1x B1900C
1x B1900D
1x Reims F406
1x C402
based in Wellington
All flights opperated 2 pilot crew!
No one and I mean No one sits in a crew seat in the cockpit on charter or scheduled runs unless they are employies and are rated on the aircraft.
Bussiness is going very well on both sides of the Tasman.
2x B1900C models
1x B1900D model
1x Reims F406
based in Darwin
1x Dash 8
1x B1900C
1x B1900D
1x Reims F406
1x C402
based in Wellington
All flights opperated 2 pilot crew!
No one and I mean No one sits in a crew seat in the cockpit on charter or scheduled runs unless they are employies and are rated on the aircraft.
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It sounds like Vincent is a good company to work for... how would they rank amongst the rest in NZ? eagle, air national etc
Does anybody have any information about hiring there? when? if? on what? how?
Do staff stay at either Darwin or WN, or tend to transfer between?
thanks
Does anybody have any information about hiring there? when? if? on what? how?
Do staff stay at either Darwin or WN, or tend to transfer between?
thanks
