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Old 26th May 2005, 09:26
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250 below 5000'

Hi all, for the benefit of Beer Can Dreaming, would a VB pilot (with current manuals) Please confirm policy on speeds below 5000 feet.

Manual reference is A1 Chapter 8 pages 189 and 196.

Could somebody please confirm 250 below 5000' with the exception of class G which is 210 below 5000'

Thanks in advance Mr.B

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Old 26th May 2005, 10:00
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Woomera.

Having a detailed discussion in the questions forum on this very subject I would say Mr Buzzy is flogging a dead horse.

How about sending this one off to the questions forum where it belongs.
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Timeee. Are you the police? Or just a sooky dobber that used to get belted up as a kid?

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That would've been funnier if you hadn't come back and edited it.

You're both tools.

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250>5000'

The 250kts below 5000' and 210kt below 3000' has been brought down as Qantas Safety department policy and implemented through Qantas and forced on subsidary companies such as Jet* and others cause the skygods keep getting into trouble below 5000. I expect CASA ran with the ball and applied pressure to VB to ensure consistency.
The 210kt below 3000 is a total ball ache and hard to achieve with clean airframe at high weight on A320.
But hey why not let it all hang out, burn extra gas and make a little noise over sensitive areas.
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Why ??????

Can't these suckers fly a jet? Maybe they should be put back on pistons with a couple of big fans to help slow them down.

Flying a jet is easy. I can't remember the last unstable approach I flew. It woulda been years ago when I was new to jets. Wow. Big deal. New guys will do that like I did. That's why the capt will step in and help correct it.

Anyone who subsequently flies unstable approaches regularly should be sacked. It's not that friggin hard.

Why penalise the guys who DO know how to fly properly??????
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Why penalise the guys who DO know how to fly properly??????
Why do you view it as being penalised?? If someone can 'fly properly' and they have enough common sense/professionalism they'll just do what the boss says it's not a competition (but then again, they are a bit tight...
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Jetjockey,

not that I am defending the 210 blw 3000' policy, what landing weights are you talking about in the A320? Even at 66K (J* MLW) 'S' speed is 195kts (ish) and Green dot is conveniently around 210kts. Just fly green dot at 3000' - all too easy!

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Would you like some cement to make this anthill into a mountain???

Straighten up and fly right.

Much ado about very little.
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Old 28th May 2005, 06:09
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Re VB yes, correct.

Whats the big deal, its their train set so we play with it as they see fit.
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Thanks very much DJ747

You obviously do your ammendments and take great pride in what you do. ( As does my friend )

Are you reading Beer Can Dreaming?

So how's it coming?

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Mr.Buzzy...

In real life, as opposed to here in cyberland, do you speak to a persons face like you do on these forums?
I'm thinking that you don't, as you realise that nobody would take you seriously if you did...

hint hint.
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VH-ABC,
It as fundamental as 123 or ABC.

You are obviously male, so you must like sex, you are on a pilots forum so you must like travel.

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Temper Temper buzzy wuzzy darling,

We all know how you get a little too excited and get finished with our "horizontal dancing " a little too quickly when you are an angry little bee.


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