............Doing Hard Time...............
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................SsaKcaj=exspurt
SsaKcaj,
I bow to your superior Knowledge. I do not profess to know these thing's, that's why I ask the questions. As as student pilot, it's hard to know which bull!!!! to believe, with you as the resident expert (or exspurt as the case maybe) your version must be right so thank you for your prompt and courteous answers.
I bow to your superior Knowledge. I do not profess to know these thing's, that's why I ask the questions. As as student pilot, it's hard to know which bull!!!! to believe, with you as the resident expert (or exspurt as the case maybe) your version must be right so thank you for your prompt and courteous answers.
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From: The Daylight Saving Free Zone
Chicken Stick
A stick used to "flip start" a model airplane engine and hence save your fingers from getting caught in the propeller when the engine starts or backfires.
I see a lot of pilots jump out and and frantically try to handstart metros again, after the engines stop (must have a lot of trouble with the idle settings and batteries).
Maybe all the sticks are broken and wont be replaced?
A stick used to "flip start" a model airplane engine and hence save your fingers from getting caught in the propeller when the engine starts or backfires.
I see a lot of pilots jump out and and frantically try to handstart metros again, after the engines stop (must have a lot of trouble with the idle settings and batteries).
Maybe all the sticks are broken and wont be replaced?
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Cecil, Cecil, Cecil,
I do not believe this was a question and you did profess to know this thing (from YOUR post):
I do not believe this was a question and you did profess to know this thing (from YOUR post):
Tinitus, the George to which I refer is Captain George Stephens, still on international routes I believe. You with all your expirence in all matters Airline you would no doubt know him?
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............SsaKcaj hits the front
You are serious right? I think you've been sniffing too much ink when your filling out all those hours in the log book, that's unless you really do know a Captain Stephans? Wasn't your bull!!!! meter on full deflection?
I also said a lot of other things they make about as much sense as that statement, 107.6 hours and .2 solo? if it's a race like you say then your way ahead so far.
I also said a lot of other things they make about as much sense as that statement, 107.6 hours and .2 solo? if it's a race like you say then your way ahead so far.
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Get into 'im Cecil.... you've got 'im strugglin now he realises he's been played like a friggin' cello.
All this wisdom from someone who can't even spell his own name!!! Dylsexia?
By the way, I always hand-fly up to 10 grand or so. I like to keep my hand on it as you can tell.
Keep up the good work, Cecil. I like your style. I'm gonna retire soon (from pprune) and you can take over if you like. Course you'll have to become my apprentice for a while.....
All this wisdom from someone who can't even spell his own name!!! Dylsexia?
By the way, I always hand-fly up to 10 grand or so. I like to keep my hand on it as you can tell.
Keep up the good work, Cecil. I like your style. I'm gonna retire soon (from pprune) and you can take over if you like. Course you'll have to become my apprentice for a while.....
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..............answers please Mr Stagg
Don't leave me here alone 
How long does the apprentiship run, the usual 30 years like in GA? is there an academic minimun? to whom do I send my application? is there a maximum age for inclusion into the ranks? to whom do I send the required dollars for the endorsment and does it cost extra to be able to post on the international side?
How long does the apprentiship run, the usual 30 years like in GA? is there an academic minimun? to whom do I send my application? is there a maximum age for inclusion into the ranks? to whom do I send the required dollars for the endorsment and does it cost extra to be able to post on the international side?
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Gidday SW23,
Back in my dark Jetstream days, the "Chicken Lever" referred to the lever that you turned and pulled to shutoff fuel and feather the prop. It was so long ago I can't remember its correct name.
What I can remember is the capt used to hang onto it tightly during engine starts incase he decided to "chicken out" of the start.
A "chicken stick", OTOH is a flat stick about the size of a doctor's tongue depresser, but about 4mm thick and made of nylon. We used them in the glass industry for anything from a scraper to installing windscreens. Fantastic bit of gear.
Sort of like the Queensland socket wrench (shifting spanner) or the Queensland screwdriver (2lb hammer)
* Ducks and runs *
I have the pleasure of sitting between 2 Garetts at work, what's the chicken thingy you refer to?
What I can remember is the capt used to hang onto it tightly during engine starts incase he decided to "chicken out" of the start.
A "chicken stick", OTOH is a flat stick about the size of a doctor's tongue depresser, but about 4mm thick and made of nylon. We used them in the glass industry for anything from a scraper to installing windscreens. Fantastic bit of gear.
Sort of like the Queensland socket wrench (shifting spanner) or the Queensland screwdriver (2lb hammer)
* Ducks and runs *
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Cecil,
I think you will find that I am in no race. It was you who started this thread so worried that people were logging time from the bunk.
To Cecil and One Nut, my user name is directed at people like you. Take a look at it backwards. No dyslexia, it is what I am thinking of you all the time.
I think you will find that I am in no race. It was you who started this thread so worried that people were logging time from the bunk.
To Cecil and One Nut, my user name is directed at people like you. Take a look at it backwards. No dyslexia, it is what I am thinking of you all the time.
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From: Albany, West Australia
Super Cecil,
As you appear to be a diligent and responsible pilot, can I suggest that you investigate the scandalous practices known to occur in GA training wherein the logged or recorded time is far greater than the actual stick time,or air time if you describe it that way.
Consider these numbers from this BFR in which I was the victim. Location: JT
Runway: 12
Time: about 2PM
Total VDO/Hobbs time was 45 mins
total circuits: 3 - 2 crash and flee, and 1 full stop, (aka - high speed runway exit).
Now, what does the honest pilot do here?
Note the wheels off to wheels on time - and only log that? (you might call this airswitch time, or your GPS might log it in a similar way according to passing 20-30 KIAS)
or,
log the 45 minutes? (Guess what you pay for?)
Perhaps before GA drivers start pointing fingers at practices in a far different sector, we should have a look at just how much air time we actually do ourselves.
happy days,
As you appear to be a diligent and responsible pilot, can I suggest that you investigate the scandalous practices known to occur in GA training wherein the logged or recorded time is far greater than the actual stick time,or air time if you describe it that way.
Consider these numbers from this BFR in which I was the victim. Location: JT
Runway: 12
Time: about 2PM
Total VDO/Hobbs time was 45 mins
total circuits: 3 - 2 crash and flee, and 1 full stop, (aka - high speed runway exit).
Now, what does the honest pilot do here?
Note the wheels off to wheels on time - and only log that? (you might call this airswitch time, or your GPS might log it in a similar way according to passing 20-30 KIAS)
or,
log the 45 minutes? (Guess what you pay for?)
Perhaps before GA drivers start pointing fingers at practices in a far different sector, we should have a look at just how much air time we actually do ourselves.
happy days,
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..................SsaKcaj, back seat boy?
Why don't you boofheads settle down, I was asking about hours logged and a term I heard when watching an interview with an airline pilot. There was no malice meant, it seemed strange to me that somebody could have 5000 hours in their logbook but actually only "Flown" maybe 2000?
Jackass why don't you go and read one ball's comment, you on delayed reaction or drugs?
RV6 bloke you can log what you want, you pay for 45 minutes log it, I normally log airswitch.
Jackass why don't you go and read one ball's comment, you on delayed reaction or drugs?
RV6 bloke you can log what you want, you pay for 45 minutes log it, I normally log airswitch.
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it seemed strange to me that somebody could have 5000 hours in their logbook but actually only "Flown" maybe 2000?
Cec maaate whats hard to understand?
The AC is under the command of some neddy for its airborne and ground operating time.All crew on board log that time even if theyre in the crew rest milking the goanna.
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.......RV6 Too much stick time
RV6 bloke, your quote
"A fool may ask more questions in one hour than a wise man can answer in seven years"
Why did you ask 4 questions in your post previous to your last?
real life, 05
"A fool may ask more questions in one hour than a wise man can answer in seven years"
Why did you ask 4 questions in your post previous to your last?
real life, 05
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i thought the "george" term was due to the earliest form of autopilot having the nickname george? might be wrong but pretty sure.
btw im looking forward to flying multi crew, looks like the aviation politics never end...
btw im looking forward to flying multi crew, looks like the aviation politics never end...
