converting aust cpl to faa cpl
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Hey punter's.
Does anyone know the in's and out's of what needs to be done to get my aust cpl converted to be able to fly in the states?
Is it purely administative ,or is it a flight test and an airlaw exam or what.
All info would be really apprieciated
Does anyone know the in's and out's of what needs to be done to get my aust cpl converted to be able to fly in the states?
Is it purely administative ,or is it a flight test and an airlaw exam or what.
All info would be really apprieciated
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I'm 1/2 way through the process myself, and come early May (when I arrive in sunny Kansas) I will have a nice shiney new FAA license. So far the process has been painless.
Bevan..
I'm 1/2 way through the process myself, and come early May (when I arrive in sunny Kansas) I will have a nice shiney new FAA license. So far the process has been painless.
Bevan..
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mmm,I see it but i'm not sure where to go and it is a bit of a maze in there,what have you had to do so far bevan and what is needed to complete it,I am pleased you are not having a s@#$ fight with it though.
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ah... now i've got it
ok thankyou very much Bevan666...
I'm pleased to see that there is not that much crap to go through,I spose i'll catch you over there in the next year or so.
Cheers RWS888
I'm pleased to see that there is not that much crap to go through,I spose i'll catch you over there in the next year or so.
Cheers RWS888
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Bevan and Company,
If you have 1500 total time the required crosscountry, 100 night a current MultiEngine Instrument.
You could do a USATP conversion from your Aussie CPL, which involves one Exam and one flight test.
An option allthough I dont kn ow how long the DOJ Security checks these days straight after 9/11 it took agaes apparently.
LOOK AT THIS SITE
www.allatps.com
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If you have 1500 total time the required crosscountry, 100 night a current MultiEngine Instrument.
You could do a USATP conversion from your Aussie CPL, which involves one Exam and one flight test.
An option allthough I dont kn ow how long the DOJ Security checks these days straight after 9/11 it took agaes apparently.
LOOK AT THIS SITE
www.allatps.com
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yeah if you can't convert straight to a US ATP you're in for some trouble. One of the requirements for a multi-engine rating is 20 hours with an authorized instructor meaning a US CFI. On top of that you have to show that you have about 20 other flight requirements to hold a multi as well as for the instrument. You have the US Instrument written to take and the US commercial. So do whatever possible to get that aussie ATP. good news: lots of hiring going on.
Not quite correct. If the training was given outside the US and by an instructor qualified under an ICAO country's jurisdiction then all the time can count.
ref:
§ 61.41 Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either—
(i) The United States; or
(ii) A foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.
(2) A flight instructor who is authorized to give such training by the licensing authority of a foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, and the flight training is given outside the United States. (my bolding)
(b) A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.
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§ 61.41 Flight training received from flight instructors not certificated by the FAA.
(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either—
(i) The United States; or
(ii) A foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.
(2) A flight instructor who is authorized to give such training by the licensing authority of a foreign contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation, and the flight training is given outside the United States. (my bolding)
(b) A flight instructor described in paragraph (a) of this section is only authorized to give endorsements to show training given.
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Drugie.....
what is the 20 hours of multi instruction all about. If you convert to a single commercial certificate....then to add the multi rating you should really only REQUIRE doing the 3 hours of training within 60 days of check ride......memory's pretty rusty on the ga training req's but......its been a while
BTW....who you with out there...are you based in the big apple?
ACA/ConEx/Jet Blue? just curious......spoke with an ozi on the Dojet for ACA based in LGA a few times.....good mate of a guy in my initial......thats not you is it S.S.?
what is the 20 hours of multi instruction all about. If you convert to a single commercial certificate....then to add the multi rating you should really only REQUIRE doing the 3 hours of training within 60 days of check ride......memory's pretty rusty on the ga training req's but......its been a while
BTW....who you with out there...are you based in the big apple?
ACA/ConEx/Jet Blue? just curious......spoke with an ozi on the Dojet for ACA based in LGA a few times.....good mate of a guy in my initial......thats not you is it S.S.?
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MJ, hey buddy, yeah I'm repeating what got told to me when I was converting and that's what I had to do. Turns out the FSDO (Dulles) that I did mine with didn't have a clue about part 61 ops and I basically blew $ thanks to their incompetence. When i got onto the Richmond FSDO they said it was much simpler than what Dulles had me do and it turned into a P$ssing match between the two FSDOs with me stuck in the middle jumping through everyones hoops. But I never saw that Pt61.41 that Tinsaaflt put on there and of course no one pointed it out to me either 'round conversion time. Sad that foreigners know the rules better than the FAA.
Oh that NY stuff is old. I'm based down here in RIC with TSA. Sorry about that, I hope ya'll don't have any ill-will towards us there at ACA. United doesn't like us anyway. Good luck with Indy Air, everyone's cheering for ya.
Oh that NY stuff is old. I'm based down here in RIC with TSA. Sorry about that, I hope ya'll don't have any ill-will towards us there at ACA. United doesn't like us anyway. Good luck with Indy Air, everyone's cheering for ya.
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Forgot that TSA picked up a UAX deal.....although I am not an ACA guy (GLA for 3 years) from what I hear most of them seem rather optimistic about flying bigger and better things.....
have fun!
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Hey do you know zach taylor...i thnk he was GLA in ORD? Yeah that united stuff is what's hopefully gonna keep this boat floating if Airways goes under. The planes are brand new from brazil too, very nice minus the fact that they don't have thrust reversers. Not interested in changin jobs are ya? They're snapping up prior 121 guys pretty quick. I jumped ship from colgan, and glad i did.
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The task of converting an Australian licence to a US license is easy enough but finding the information is not. I have contacted several FSDO's and have obtained conflicting information but as far as I am aware the following is pretty close.
These days the FAA will only issue a PPL, regardless of what foreign license you hold(min ICAO PPL).
Fill in the verifcation form noting which FSDO you will attend. They will then send you a letter allowing you to visit said FSDO office in the next 6 months.
When you visit the said FSDO office they will issue you a PPL based on your Australian license (SEL & MEL if held) and it will only be valid when carried with your Australian (valid) license. You can use the US PPL subject to completing a BFR(in the US). If you intend to rent an airplane in the US, you want to seriously look at taking out renter's insurance!!!
If you want to add an Instrument rating, at the time of the visit point out that you have an Australian Instrument rating and that you have completed the IFP, Instrument Foregin Pilot written exam within the previous 24 months and they will include the rating.
If you wish to then get a commercial or ATP, it is a "simple" matter of sitting the appropriate written test for the license and completing the flight test.(Assuuming you meet the minimum hours requirement). Someone like ALLATPS will do this for around US$1195(ATP). To add an Instrument Rating to the Commercial or ATP I belive you will have to sit the IRA, Instrument Rating written.
I presume that if you do the IRA initally instead of the IFP, that this would still get you the Instrument rating on the PPL.(IRA covers a greater subject matter)
Hope this helps...........
These days the FAA will only issue a PPL, regardless of what foreign license you hold(min ICAO PPL).
Fill in the verifcation form noting which FSDO you will attend. They will then send you a letter allowing you to visit said FSDO office in the next 6 months.
When you visit the said FSDO office they will issue you a PPL based on your Australian license (SEL & MEL if held) and it will only be valid when carried with your Australian (valid) license. You can use the US PPL subject to completing a BFR(in the US). If you intend to rent an airplane in the US, you want to seriously look at taking out renter's insurance!!!
If you want to add an Instrument rating, at the time of the visit point out that you have an Australian Instrument rating and that you have completed the IFP, Instrument Foregin Pilot written exam within the previous 24 months and they will include the rating.
If you wish to then get a commercial or ATP, it is a "simple" matter of sitting the appropriate written test for the license and completing the flight test.(Assuuming you meet the minimum hours requirement). Someone like ALLATPS will do this for around US$1195(ATP). To add an Instrument Rating to the Commercial or ATP I belive you will have to sit the IRA, Instrument Rating written.
I presume that if you do the IRA initally instead of the IFP, that this would still get you the Instrument rating on the PPL.(IRA covers a greater subject matter)
Hope this helps...........
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Well, that looks far from painless doesn't it ,more cost and more s@#* to go through but they level of A/C just in GA alone is worth it,It's a Chieftain or a Titan here or the right seat of a GIII or a Excell over there,
You do the Math.......
You do the Math.......
If you do the ATP you won't have to do an IR. The US ATP carries with it integral IR privileges. The test is basically an IR test with slightly tighter tolerances eg quarter scale deflection for the ILS.
I did it about 7 years ago. The only thing that has complicated it recently is the 'enhanced' 'security' procedures.
Once you jump through the 'security' hoops you'll need to do the ATP exam, a medical (class 1, I think. Can't remember) & the flight test.
If you're doing a type rating then it's often possible to include any additional ATP test items within the type rating check ride & get the ATP with the type.
I did it about 7 years ago. The only thing that has complicated it recently is the 'enhanced' 'security' procedures.
Once you jump through the 'security' hoops you'll need to do the ATP exam, a medical (class 1, I think. Can't remember) & the flight test.
If you're doing a type rating then it's often possible to include any additional ATP test items within the type rating check ride & get the ATP with the type.
