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Old 22nd Mar 2004, 00:28
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Serious query on Diplomas

I have no other qualifications other than those accredited from flying schools and various jobs and I think it would be beneficial for me to have some kind of formal qualification (I have a good GA job and have been working as a pilot for 5 years. I know it won't help me get a job on some station. Been there, done that) What are the non-aviation subjects that are offered and where can I find information about courses that are offered via correspondence? Is it true that all things aviation already done (PPL,CPL,ATPL,DG,CRM etc) can be credited to the course, leaving only the non-aviation stuff? Does it have to have been done with a registered provider or are the CASA credits enough.

I'm only interested in the actual courses. I don't particularily care whether or not people think that it will be and advantage or not. I realise that there is more to life than being a pilot and almost everybody has a university of TAFE qualification in something and if I ever need to compete outside aviation, I don't stand a chance.
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my theory is if you have all the appropriate aviation quals (ATPL etc)..why bother with worrying about course credit.

enrol in a bachelor of science or business..do some psych some management some business subjects in general and round out your experience.

theres always use for these as a CP or in a training or management capacity later on in your career.

And yes there is way more to life than aviation.. and theres benefit in studying almost anything.

Just my opinion, but i must be a glutton for punishment...being in aviation AND studying part time for 10 years!!
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Old 22nd Mar 2004, 02:16
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Thumbs up Very Wise Words, Jag!

Study is the key and perhaps an instructor rating... In the next ten years, there will be an incredible lack of Flying Instructors... helps with your CRM, people skills and of course, improves your own flying... when you get to an airline, they will snap you up for check and training and just think of the right hand seat experience that you have now! Go for your life!
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Good Advice Jag!

This is good advice from the Jag here, U&A.

Study something part time by distance education while you are working. I probably wouldn't bother with a formal Aviation qualification.

Do something useful and adaptable like accounting, business administration, marketing, teaching or IT. Give yourself another career option as well as improving your education.

Aviation is all fine while you have a steady job, no family and you are happy to go and work anywhere...but will this always be the case??

...And if the answer to that is "yes" then a degree in something else will still look great on the CV and be useful if you ever move into (God help you) Aviation management ...

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Old 22nd Mar 2004, 05:59
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I love the "god help you" comment ...


"Did ya ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight? ....I always ask that of all my prey...."

Jack Nicholson aka The Joker.
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Consider the advantage of reading for a qualification other than in "aviation". The latter might be of some small use to the pilot but, in general, probably is not going to be of much use in putting food on the table if the licence or job is lost for whatever reason.

If you want to keep the external qualification close to aviation, then look at something like aero engineering.

Main thing is to consider what the bit of paper gives you when it comes to peddling it for a job in its own right. The aviation studies qualifications probably won't do this as well as a mainstream qualification.
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Aero-eng is a long, hard, haul. And it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to do by distance ed. Something in business is always a fairly safe bet.



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Aero Engineering??!! Surely you can't be serious!!!?? I personally know 4 aero engineers none of whom work in aviation. One works at Uni the others wound up in air conditioning companies.

Additionally it is 4 years of hard core maths & physics. Basically 35 hours a week in lectures If you were hot stuff with Maths in High school it could be an option but unless you were good at higher level maths forget it. If you want to get into the engineering side of things you would be much more employable as a civil engineer. Aero engineering is a bit of mugs game in reality.

Business degree might be a slightly better option.

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Scud_runner is spot on with this one. The aero-eng's I know went into IT, car manufacturers or manufacturing engineering...others go on and do further study and work at universities.

You need to be pretty darn good in your maths, physics and computing skills. It makes ATPL studies look like a bit of a joke actually. (Which it is.)

You can't do this one as a back-up career...if you do it, you have to REALLY do it...
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