Another US Start-Up Airline ?
 

This is ambitious but Neeleman does have a long track record with this kind of thing. Do people start airlines if they don't believe they can find pilots to fly the airplanes ?:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ine&yptr=yahoo

Skybus 2.0?

Could be, I suppose. But this guy has a history that makes him worth watching. He might be able to attract some investors.

Oh, I don't doubt that...it's more that those investors may never see any returns...

havick,

That's THE question. But people are starting airlines around the world on a pretty regular basis apparently without a concern for filling seats.

I wouldn't think Neeleman would be making this move unless he was confident of a pilot supply.

Seats WILL be filled if he actually goes ahead with the plan.

Same place this outfit would get 'em ;):

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...gured-crj-700s

Nearing an airplane choice ?:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...airline-report

And an A320 start up in California, AirBahn ? Really ?

https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/31eybj/airbahn-inc

It's coming !!

http://airbahn.com/

The first outfit I'd start shopping would be Frontier. Years away from a contract, leave cancelled for the 3rd. month in a row and contract negotiations stuck at the NMDB....

The latest from Neeleman and "Moxy". I wonder what he means by this. So every possible approach hasn't already been tried ?:

"Neeleman promised 'innovative approaches' to recruiting pilots'..."


https://skift.com/2018/09/21/jetblue...to-fly-planes/

Now that you mention it, I do have a vague recollection of a pic of someone's E-jet from some start up...can't remember details. Could it be this outfit with a different airplane ?

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300702881.html

This is at least the third version of CalPac. They previously had a single E175 painted in their colors, now I guess it's E145s. They also had a CEO who used to drink with Noah himself and was one of the original contractors on The Tower Of Babel project.

Marketing wise I am starting to smell the cookies they used to have on Air Midwest. Secondary cities, business class seats, if you want that, and point to point service. It's been done before but both Air Midwest and lately OneJet have failed. Neeleman is a smart guy but he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room here, and when the majors see an impact on a city pair they will drop the price, even if it means a connection. On a city-pair basis It's a minor low impact hit to their bottom line of a Major but a real heat to Moxy. .

Neeleman may end up having a decent market for his product. If a passenger is heading from somewhere in Florida to his home near, say, Danbury, CT - would he pick JFK, LGA, EWR or Hartford for his destination? I personally would avoid the NYC area unless I was actually headed there. So a non-stop flight into Hartford would be my pick, if available.

With the fuel savings of the A220/C Series, I think Neeleman could give the more established carriers a good run for their money. Plus it doesn't look like he's planning to start small - the order is for 60 of the larger version. Unless the majors start breaking their hub and spoke model and begin offering non-stop flights between smaller cities, I'm not sure how well they can compete if a passenger values time and does not want to take a connecting flight.

I'm still intrigued by Neeleman's claim he'll use 'innovative approaches' to recruiting pilots.

Looks like California Pacific has actually launched:

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/cali...nes-inaugural/

Still waiting for more info on Moxy and their "innovative approaches" to pilot recruiting. :E

Pakistan's AirBlue opening up a U.S. airline? :confused: