They might do a charter here or there. Their website still lists contact info for charters, but their flight history shows very little flying. In the past two weeks they just did a short repositioning flight. I do know that they need to maintain a minimum management structure (Chief Pilot, DO, Head of Maintenance etc) just time keep the 121 certificate active.

Avatar Airlines is back baby! The convicted felon (14mo served), Barry Michael, who also has a degree in chiropractic, claims to have signed an LoI with Boeing. I wonder if Boeing knows that??? 30x 747-8i aircraft to fly domestic US routes for $19. Even has an almost professional-looking info memo: https://avatarairlines.com/wp-conten...ISED111819.pdf

Need to take this numb nut down before he takes anyone's money.

He wants to use 747-8s, not triple Sevens. Says he can run a four engine plane cheaper on short two or three hour legs. Just try to wrap your head around that. I saw a web page where his VP of Flight Ops, who has both Classic and 400 Seven Four types and has been with him for a couple decades, was responding to questions about the operation. It was entertaining reading. The VP hasn’t got a medical for the last several years, probably because he’s certifiably crazy.

Sorry, my typo. 747-8i, not 777s. He claims he will own 30x by year 3 but in his IM, he has the value of aircraft assets at $580m so it would seem his LoI with Boeing is ~$19.3m each. Less than half a new Max! That’s a great deal! 🤪

Oh God, now I will have to scan this 455pg file they submitted to the US DoT: https://avatarairlines.com/wp-conten...W-EXHIBITS.pdf

In other breaking news, Sky Palace Airways has delayed its debut:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...s-to-late-2q20

Can anyone direct me to or share Breeze Aviation Group's DoT application please?
Interested to read the document.

🤔 can’t seem to find it either. It it public?

How about this ? I haven't read it because it's probably too long for my attention span:

https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0019-0001

The latest on Midwest Express. Hope springs eternal ?:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...head-of-launch

Annnnd there's another one:

They bought an airplane:
https://simpleflying.com/global-cros...es-first-a320/


https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/07/15/...tic-city-base/

https://www.globalairlinesgroup.com/overview.html

Never say "die". At least a pilot shortage won't be a problem now:

"Via Airlines announced that it filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and ceased all operations on Oct. 8, 2019, due to pilot shortage..."

https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/07/26/...h-new-airline/

Start-up, Airbahn, is apparently still intending to operate (I'd forgotten about them). This link contains posts for both A320 seats(18 slots each). There'll be plenty of A320 F/Os walking the streets but captains ? Not sure about that:

https://www.airbahn.com/jobs/?source=SkyJobs.com

Airbahn now looking for a chief pilot. Maybe something's going on:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/14288.html

The CP and DO just resigned at Airbahn. CEO is taking advantage of the pilots on the street with extreamly crappy pay.

FO 60.00 hr with 70 hr guarantee
CAPT 109.00 hr with 70 hr guarantee

No yearly increase
No 401 K

2 year training contract

They just hired a COO from express jet so I'm sure he's going to run it like a Regional.

Have they actually started operations yet? What experience level have they hired on to A320 up until now?

Under current circumstances, those hired at Airbahn may be hesitant to comment (or opine) publicly. But, I'd like to hear some inside scoop.

I was offered a job and declined. Good luck to them...
 

I interviewed not knowing their proposed compensation. When I found out, I was disappointed and declined.

At the end, I asked them to please poll the pilots working for them already (certification guys, CP, DO, etc.) and ask if they thought that $109/hr was a fair and adequate wage for an A320 Captain based in SNA or LGB... I said if they answered yes, I would be shocked. Then, I wished them well and said if they changed their minds and wanted to meet my salary requirements, call me.

If I was hiring folks to fly me and my customers around, I would hire the best and retain them! But, of course, I am a low-life 25 year airline pilot that is not hiring pilots and has no customers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Job search continues.

Final Airbahn thoughts, I think they are addressing pilot compensation all wrong. I told them that. I declined and wish them well. The higher-ups I met seemed nice and smart. But they are wealthy people that want to take advantage of the perceived labor market. Good luck to them, but I think they are wrong on this pilot pay thing. I think anyone would that has ridden around in metal sky ships for years and years. But, for those that accept their terms, good luck to you and I wish you well also.

Merry Christmas to all!

yf,

Understand. Did you have any sense of how many people they were interviewing or how many applied ? I'd expect it be a large number under the circumstances.

They will have people leave as soon as something else better comes. Airbahn will have the quickest union drive if the CEO keeps running it as he has. He's trying to run it like his Middle East company but its not flying well with the other employees. Three other managers are fed up and looking to leave. We started working for this company with good intentions but our hands were always tied behind our backs.